June 21, 1978

PC

William Hillary (Bill) Clarke

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Clarke:

Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister what recent developments caused the ruling to be investigated and forced the government to stop giving that information.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE
Sub-subtopic:   CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION SUPPLIED TO RCMP
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LIB

Jack Sydney George (Bud) Cullen (Minister of Employment and Immigration)

Liberal

Mr. Cullen:

Mr. Speaker, until the carping of opposition members, we used what we thought was common sense and tried to help the RCMP in their fight against organized crime-

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE
Sub-subtopic:   CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION SUPPLIED TO RCMP
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An hon. Member:

Organized crime?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE
Sub-subtopic:   CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION SUPPLIED TO RCMP
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LIB

Jack Sydney George (Bud) Cullen (Minister of Employment and Immigration)

Liberal

Mr. Cullen:

I might say that with the passage of Bill C-27, the hon. member's colleague, the hon. member for Hamilton West, quite correctly thought that the minister should have the responsibility for giving information under the Unemployment Insurance Act to other people, and insisted that the wording be changed from "the commission" to "the minister" so that the minister had to accept responsibility. I sought a legal opinion to determine whether we were acting within the provisions of section 126. The advice I have from legal counsel is to the effect that more information is being provided than was authorized by that section. Because of that, I have ordered it stopped.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE
Sub-subtopic:   CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION SUPPLIED TO RCMP
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CONSUMER AFFAIRS

NDP

William Arnold Peters

New Democratic Party

Mr. Arnold Peters (Timiskaming):

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs. A recent report by Robert Babe to the Restrictive Trade Practices Commission indicated that Bell Canada has overcharged its subscribers, who live mostly in Ontario and Quebec, by more than $1 billion. In light of this report, will the minister demand that Bell rebate to its subscribers their individual overpayments which went to Northern Telecom, a Bell subsidiary?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CONSUMER AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   OVERCHARGING BY BELL CANADA-REFERRAL TO AIB
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LIB

William Warren Allmand (Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs)

Liberal

Hon. Warren Allmand (Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs):

Mr. Speaker, that report had been commissioned by the director of research and investigation under the Combines Investigation Act. As you know, he operates independently under the statute. He has now received the report. I have not yet read it, but it will be presented as evidence to the Restrictive Trade Practices Commission, which is the usual practice, and they will make a judgment.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CONSUMER AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   OVERCHARGING BY BELL CANADA-REFERRAL TO AIB
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NDP

William Arnold Peters

New Democratic Party

Mr. Peters:

I have a supplementary question to the Minister of Finance. Has this gouging of the public by Bell Canada been referred to the AIB for rebate action, in light of the advantageous rates charged to subscribers of publicly-owned telephone systems who purchased their equipment on the open

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market rather than the principle used by Bell of buying from their own subsidiary?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CONSUMER AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   OVERCHARGING BY BELL CANADA-REFERRAL TO AIB
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LIB

Joseph Jacques Jean Chrétien (Minister of Finance)

Liberal

Hon. Jean Chretien (Minister of Finance):

I think the legislation governing the AIB applies to Bell Canada. I will make sure the AIB look into that matter and report to me.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CONSUMER AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   OVERCHARGING BY BELL CANADA-REFERRAL TO AIB
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INDUSTRY

PC

George H. Whittaker

Progressive Conservative

Mr. G. H. Whittaker (Okanagan Boundary):

Mr. Speaker, in view of the announcement made last week by the Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce while he was in Kelowna, B.C., that he was going to give $6 million in financing to Triphibian Helicopters, and in view of the confusion this has caused in Kelowna because the Regional Economic Development Commission know that Triphibian Helicopter's first choice was to locate in Kelowna, not in Victoria, I ask the minister whether it was the Triphibian aircraft that he was announcing, or the Trident aircraft, and the source of the $6 million.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   INDUSTRY
Sub-subtopic:   FINANCING OF CERTAIN AIR CARRIERS
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LIB

John (Jack) Henry Horner (Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Hon. Jack H. Horner (Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce):

Mr. Speaker, there does seem to be a great deal of confusion. I announced in Vancouver on Monday that the Enterprise Development Board, under my department, is prepared to guarantee loans at the bank of up to $2 million for Trident Aircraft Industries, which is to manufacture the Trigull, an amphibian, four to six-passenger paraplane, on the west coast, to be assembled in Sidney. With the $2 million that my department, through the Enterprise Development Board, is prepared to guarantee, Treasury Board has approved a $4 million repayable loan to the company.

That loan is to be given as production proceeds and repaid as sales on the plane are made. In total, it is $6 million for the establishment of an aircraft industry on the west coast, hoping that the spin-off from that industry will enable offset programs to be taken from the huge aircraft industry to the south into Canada, thereby creating a large number of jobs in the air industry of the west coast.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   INDUSTRY
Sub-subtopic:   FINANCING OF CERTAIN AIR CARRIERS
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PC

George H. Whittaker

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Whittaker:

Mr. Speaker, I have a supplementary question. In view of the fact the minister clearly announced in Kelowna that it was for Triphibian Helicopters, I would ask him if the same arrangement, or project, is available for Triphibian Helicopters who want to locate in Kelowna, where he was making the announcement?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   INDUSTRY
Sub-subtopic:   FINANCING OF CERTAIN AIR CARRIERS
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LIB

John (Jack) Henry Horner (Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Horner:

Mr. Speaker, I had the privilege of addressing a roomful of about 500 people, or more, at a nominating convention in Kelowna. It was a great meeting. At no time did I mention helicopters in my speech. And I can say to the House and to the country that I was very pleased with the

calibre of candidate who came forward and offered himself to serve that area.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   INDUSTRY
Sub-subtopic:   FINANCING OF CERTAIN AIR CARRIERS
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LOTO CANADA

PC

Charles Joseph Clark (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Joe Clark (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the Prime Minister, who I am sure is pleased, having regard to the calibre of his Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce, that there are some good candidates presenting themselves to the Liberal party.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   LOTO CANADA
Sub-subtopic:   POSSIBLE EXTENSION OF LOTTERY
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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   LOTO CANADA
Sub-subtopic:   POSSIBLE EXTENSION OF LOTTERY
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LIB

Stanley Ronald Basford (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. Basford:

Jealousy will get you nowhere.

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Subtopic:   LOTO CANADA
Sub-subtopic:   POSSIBLE EXTENSION OF LOTTERY
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PC

Charles Joseph Clark (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Clark:

My question relates to lotteries and to a potentially serious federal-provincial controversy. The Prime Minister will remember that the then minister of industry, trade and commerce, in a standing committee in mid-June, 1976, in relation to the federal lottery said, "We could decide to carry on or withdraw completely if there is an understanding between the provincial governments and the federal government". In other words, it was very clear that there would be a carrying on of the federal lottery only with understanding of the provinces.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   LOTO CANADA
Sub-subtopic:   POSSIBLE EXTENSION OF LOTTERY
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LIB

Stanley Ronald Basford (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. Basford:

That was not the understanding.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   LOTO CANADA
Sub-subtopic:   POSSIBLE EXTENSION OF LOTTERY
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June 21, 1978