May 16, 1978

PC

Charles Joseph Clark (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Clark:

Serge Joyal is not laughing.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FINANCE
Sub-subtopic:   FEDERAL METHOD OF DEALING WITH QUEBEC SALES TAX CUTS
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LIB

Pierre Elliott Trudeau (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Mr. Trudeau:

As to the question itself, Mr. Speaker, about treating the country differently, I repeat what the Minister of Finance said to the Leader of the Opposition. Obviously, the hon. member for Brome-Missisquoi does not understand what is being done. In the case of every province, including the province of Quebec, what this scheme involves is giving tax room to the provinces. We did this in the budget on budget night by giving tax room to every province so that they could occupy that tax room. We have done just the same thing for the province of Quebec. We have given it tax room so it could occupy it. It is the same thing for all the provinces.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FINANCE
Sub-subtopic:   FEDERAL METHOD OF DEALING WITH QUEBEC SALES TAX CUTS
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Some hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FINANCE
Sub-subtopic:   FEDERAL METHOD OF DEALING WITH QUEBEC SALES TAX CUTS
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PC

William Heward Grafftey

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Grafftey:

I wonder if that includes the province of Alberta.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FINANCE
Sub-subtopic:   FEDERAL METHOD OF DEALING WITH QUEBEC SALES TAX CUTS
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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh!

May 16, 1978

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FINANCE
Sub-subtopic:   FEDERAL METHOD OF DEALING WITH QUEBEC SALES TAX CUTS
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SALES TAX COMPENSATION FOR QUEBECKERS NOT FILING INCOME TAX RETURN

PC

William Heward Grafftey

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Heward Grafftey (Brome-Missisquoi):

Mr. Speaker, my supplementary question is for the Minister of Finance. In view of the fact that, since he made his statement here yesterday, several members of his party here in Ottawa have indicated that they are against the proposition, including a number of Quebec representatives from the government side-

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SALES TAX COMPENSATION FOR QUEBECKERS NOT FILING INCOME TAX RETURN
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Some hon. Members:

Give us their names!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SALES TAX COMPENSATION FOR QUEBECKERS NOT FILING INCOME TAX RETURN
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LIB

James Alexander Jerome (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. If the hon. member for Brome-Missisquoi has a question, would he put it.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SALES TAX COMPENSATION FOR QUEBECKERS NOT FILING INCOME TAX RETURN
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PC

William Heward Grafftey

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Grafftey:

Mr. Speaker, in view of the fact that several members from the government side here in Ottawa are against this proposal-

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SALES TAX COMPENSATION FOR QUEBECKERS NOT FILING INCOME TAX RETURN
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Some hon. Members:

Give us their names!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SALES TAX COMPENSATION FOR QUEBECKERS NOT FILING INCOME TAX RETURN
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LIB

James Alexander Jerome (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. I was not asking the hon. member to repeat the preamble.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SALES TAX COMPENSATION FOR QUEBECKERS NOT FILING INCOME TAX RETURN
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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SALES TAX COMPENSATION FOR QUEBECKERS NOT FILING INCOME TAX RETURN
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PC

Walter David Baker (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Baker (Grenville-Carleton):

Tell them to keep quiet over there.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SALES TAX COMPENSATION FOR QUEBECKERS NOT FILING INCOME TAX RETURN
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PC

Steve Eugene Paproski

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Paproski:

Tell those Liberals to keep quiet. [Translation]

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SALES TAX COMPENSATION FOR QUEBECKERS NOT FILING INCOME TAX RETURN
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PC

William Heward Grafftey

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Grafftey:

Considering that only the citizens of the province of Quebec who pay income tax will receive a rebate from the federal government, could the Minister of Finance inform the House today how, specifically, he intends to compensate the poor people of the province of Quebec who do not pay any income tax? Moreover, considering that Mr. Pari-zeau's proposal received the support of all opposition parties in the province of Quebec and several federal members of parliament, will he forget his confrontation policy and accept Quebec's proposal as soon as possible?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SALES TAX COMPENSATION FOR QUEBECKERS NOT FILING INCOME TAX RETURN
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LIB

Joseph Jacques Jean Chrétien (Minister of Finance)

Liberal

Hon. Jean Chretien (Minister of Finance):

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to tell the hon. member that we have offered a taxation field which could be taken over by Quebec, much as we did for the other provinces. The formula used was to cut the federal income tax and allow the provinces to move into this taxation field. Quebec received the same proposal as the other provinces. I do not understand how the hon. member fails to comprehend that aspect. It is obvious to me.

As to the members of my own party who might not have supported this proposal, I wish the hon. member would try to name them.

Oral Questions

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SALES TAX COMPENSATION FOR QUEBECKERS NOT FILING INCOME TAX RETURN
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ALLEGED INJUSTICE TO QUEBECKERS RESPECTING SALES TAX

PC

Roch La Salle

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Roch La Salle (Joliette):

Mr. Speaker, when I look at the proposal of the Minister of Finance, I see it is true that if ridicule killed, he would not be in the House today.

Here is my question. As, according to the proposed formula, couples where both partners work will normally receive S85 each, while families where only the father works will receive only $85, can the Minister of Finance tell us whether he considers that as an answer to the just society promised by his Prime Minister?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   ALLEGED INJUSTICE TO QUEBECKERS RESPECTING SALES TAX
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LIB

Joseph Jacques Jean Chrétien (Minister of Finance)

Liberal

Hon. Jean Chretien (Minister of Finance):

Mr. Speaker, when we cut taxes, we cut taxes. The same thing goes for Ontario and the other provinces. We cut the income tax of every taxpayer. The proposal of the hon. member to the House at this point does not hold any water because we did exactly the same thing throughout Canada. We have withdrawn from a field of taxation which the other provinces have taken over without the hue and cry the Quebec government is trying to stir up in an attempt to derive the political advantages the hon. member supports.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   ALLEGED INJUSTICE TO QUEBECKERS RESPECTING SALES TAX
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May 16, 1978