May 16, 1978

LIB

James Alexander Jerome (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

The House has heard the terms of the hon. member's motion. Under the provisions of Standing Order 43, that motion requires unanimous consent of the House. Is there unanimous consent?

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   VIOLATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS-PROPOSAL GOVERNMENT EXPRESS CONCERN TO U.S.S.R.-MOTION UNDER S.O. 43
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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   VIOLATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS-PROPOSAL GOVERNMENT EXPRESS CONCERN TO U.S.S.R.-MOTION UNDER S.O. 43
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Some hon. Members:

No.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   VIOLATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS-PROPOSAL GOVERNMENT EXPRESS CONCERN TO U.S.S.R.-MOTION UNDER S.O. 43
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INDUSTRY

PC

Elmer MacIntosh MacKay (Progressive Conservative Party Caucus Chair)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Elmer M. MacKay (Central Nova):

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a matter of urgent and pressing necessity under Standing Order 43. Since two key industries in Nova Scotia, Hawker Siddeley and Michelin Tire, continue to be adversely affected by legislation and unfair competition from abroad, in the case of Hawker Siddeley by unfair competition from Japan and the EEC and in the case of Michelin Tire by discriminatory

Oral Questions

countervailing duties initiated by the United States, I move, seconded by the hon. member for St. John's West (Mr. Crosbie):

That appropriate members of cabinet immediately explore measures to counter these adverse conditions which could affect many hundreds of jobs by instituting high-level negotiations in particular with the United States, the United Kingdom and Japan.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   INDUSTRY
Sub-subtopic:   MULTINATIONAL NEGOTIATIONS TO COUNTER ADVERSE CONDITIONS FOR CANADA-MOTION UNDER S O. 43
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LIB

James Alexander Jerome (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Presentation of such a motion for debate at this time, pursuant to Standing Order 43, requires the unanimous consent of the House. Is there unanimous consent?

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   INDUSTRY
Sub-subtopic:   MULTINATIONAL NEGOTIATIONS TO COUNTER ADVERSE CONDITIONS FOR CANADA-MOTION UNDER S O. 43
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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   INDUSTRY
Sub-subtopic:   MULTINATIONAL NEGOTIATIONS TO COUNTER ADVERSE CONDITIONS FOR CANADA-MOTION UNDER S O. 43
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Some hon. Members:

No.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   INDUSTRY
Sub-subtopic:   MULTINATIONAL NEGOTIATIONS TO COUNTER ADVERSE CONDITIONS FOR CANADA-MOTION UNDER S O. 43
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ANNUAL INCREASES FOR COMMONS AND LIBRARY STAFF

LIB

James Alexander Jerome (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Before beginning the oral question period, and arising out of the motion put forward by the hon. member for Nickel Belt (Mr. Rodriguez), I would like to address the House regarding pay increases for the staff. There has been concern expressed a number of times by members on both sides of the House about the progress of the salary arrangements for this fiscal year for staff members of the House of Commons.

I would like to indicate to the House that the matter has been under very diligent consideration on my part and on the part of the Commissioners of Internal Economy. We have shared responsibilities in this respect. On my part it is to represent the interests of the staff of the House of Commons, and on the part of the commissioners, of course, it is to represent the expenditure side of the ledger. We have undergone considerable review and re-examination of several proposals. We are not delaying the matter but are simply endeavouring to come to a consensus, which we hope to be in a position to announce very soon.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   ANNUAL INCREASES FOR COMMONS AND LIBRARY STAFF
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ORAL QUESTION PERIOD

FINANCE

PC

Charles Joseph Clark (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Joe Clark (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Minister of Finance. It concerns the government's latest variant in the sales tax proposal as it applies to the province of Quebec, a proposal that is not equitable as it concerns the people nor as it concerns the provinces.

May 16, 1978

Oral Questions

Could the Minister of Finance advise this House of Commons whether he or his officials denied the request of at least one other province that it vary the federal sales tax proposal by using the money from their one point of sales tax to finance job creation programs? If they did deny that to one other province, will that denial stand in light of legislation introduced by the minister, and will the government open alternatives for variance of the sales tax proposal to other provinces?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FINANCE
Sub-subtopic:   SALES TAX PROPOSAL RELATING TO QUEBEC
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LIB

Joseph Jacques Jean Chrétien (Minister of Finance)

Liberal

Hon. Jean Chretien (Minister of Finance):

Mr. Speaker, there was, during the discussions, a proposition made by the provinces. Some wanted many ways to operate that. I think there was some suggestion of that nature. 1 discussed with my colleagues what could be done and how we could make it as flexible as possible. Of course, we have not accepted the proposition that the money could be applied to other things than sales tax.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FINANCE
Sub-subtopic:   SALES TAX PROPOSAL RELATING TO QUEBEC
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PC

Charles Joseph Clark (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Clark:

A supplementary question, Mr. Speaker. I want to be clear on this. The government's proposal is to make an exception in the application of that proposal as it applies to Quebec but to deny that exception to other provinces. I understand that to be what the Minister of Finance just said.

I want to get to the equity of this proposal as it deals with individuals. It is clear that what the government is proposing is a bonus to the rich: it proposes to pay $85 to Quebeckers like the Prime Minister, like Senator Giguere, like Bud Drury, but to deny it to the 2.2 million Quebeckers who are now of working age but who last year did not pay federal income tax in the province of Quebec.

Will the Minister of Finance tell us why he is denying aid to low income Quebeckers who would have been aided by a reduction in sales tax on those commodities for which they pay as the rich pay but for which they have more need?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FINANCE
Sub-subtopic:   SALES TAX PROPOSAL RELATING TO QUEBEC
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Some hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FINANCE
Sub-subtopic:   SALES TAX PROPOSAL RELATING TO QUEBEC
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LIB

Joseph Jacques Jean Chrétien (Minister of Finance)

Liberal

Mr. Chretien:

Mr. Speaker, I think the hon. member does not comprehend very well what we have done.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FINANCE
Sub-subtopic:   SALES TAX PROPOSAL RELATING TO QUEBEC
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An hon. Member:

Nobody does.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FINANCE
Sub-subtopic:   SALES TAX PROPOSAL RELATING TO QUEBEC
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Some hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FINANCE
Sub-subtopic:   SALES TAX PROPOSAL RELATING TO QUEBEC
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LIB

Joseph Jacques Jean Chrétien (Minister of Finance)

Liberal

Mr. Chretien:

In Ontario and in all the provinces, what we have done-and it can be found in the budget speech-is reduce the income tax of every taxpayer in all provinces but Quebec by $100. Every province in the agreement has raised its own income tax by $100, and with the proceeds of that money they have decided to reduce the sales tax.

The government of Quebec has not agreed to reduce the sales tax across the board, so we have decided to carry out our commitment as much as we can in paying the $40 million that goes to the items they have cut. If the Quebec government and the Leader of the Opposition would like to be fair to everybody, they should have been on my side when I said to Quebec

that they could cut the sales tax to everybody on all items so that the poor would have the money.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FINANCE
Sub-subtopic:   SALES TAX PROPOSAL RELATING TO QUEBEC
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May 16, 1978