Can a Regional Director of the Unemployment Insurance Commission (a) rent (b) lend computer services and personnel to private companies and, if not, are civil servants willing to testify in this regard, bound by an oath of office?

Hon. Bud Cullen (Minister of Manpower and Immigration):

(a) and (b) Yes.

1. Do the regulations respecting ground transportation fees at airports state that "The annual fee for a permit to operate a taxicab or limousine at Toronto International Airport is $875," and, if so, has the Department of Transport collected such moneys or parts thereof and, if not, for what reason?

2. Have any legal questions of a discriminatory basis or otherwise been raised with regard to the collection of such fees and, if so (a) what are the details (b) which group, person or individual made such representation (c) what specific action is being taken or will be taken to respond?

3. - Do the government airport concession operations regulations state in part, that any person may pick up or transport passengers in a commercial passenger vehicle from a place outside the airport to a destination at the airport and, if so, does Blue Line Taxi adhere to the regulation at the Ottawa International Airport and, if not, for what reason?

4. Are*Gloucester Township taxis, under city regulations, allowed to pick-up a fare in Ottawa and transport the passenger to the Airport and, if so, has Mr. Montgomery, President of Blue Line Taxis Limited, on occasion fined the Carleton Taxi Association members for doing so and is this in contradiction of section 7(1 )(a) of the government airport concession operations regulations?

5. Does the license (file no. 5156-464-6 Vol.3) between the Department of Transport and Blue Line Taxis Limited (formerly Red Line Taxis Limited) state at section 5 "that the Licensee shall in all respects abide by and comply with all lawful rules, regulations and by-laws of municipalities and other governing bodies, in any manner affecting the operations conducted by the Licensee hereunder" and, if so, has Blue Line Taxis Limited complied faithfully to this section and, if not, for what reason?

6. Does the Department collect 5 per cent of the gross revenue derived by Blue Line Taxis Limited from the operation of the bus and limousine service to and from Ottawa International Airport and such other special ground transportation services from the Airport, and fifteen cents for each taxicab from the Airport, all as established to the satisfaction of the Minister, payable in monthly installments on or before the fifteenth day of each succeeding month?

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7. For each year since Blue Line Taxis has been operating out of the Airport, what is the amount of gross revenue the Department received from the (a) taxicab (b) bus (c) limousine service?

8. With reference to Part 7, is there any cross subsidy among the taxicab, bus and limousine service at the Airport and, if so (a) which modes are being cross subsidized (b) what is the specific amount of the cross subsidy for each year that Blue Line Taxis has been operating?

9. Does Appendix B of the August 1976 Ground Transportation Policy for Airports state "where a bus service operator also provides limousine service the limousine service must be on a self-supporting basis and not subsidized by revenue from the bus operator" and, if so (a) is the (i) limousine service (ii) bus service at Ottawa International Airport on a self-supporting basis (b) does the bus service at Ottawa International Airport subsidize the limousine service and, if so, to what extent?

10. What is the last date that public tenders were called on the taxi, bus and limousine service at Ottawa International Airport?

Hon. Otto E. Lang (Minister of Transport):

1. The airport ground transportation regulations state that the annual fee for a permit to operate a taxicab or limousine at Toronto International Airport is $875. The regulations were promulgated to stipulate this fee in anticipation of the proclamation of Toronto International Airport as a designated airport pursuant to section 4 of the Airport Concession Operations Regulations. No moneys have been collected since the airport has not yet been designated and the $875 fee is therefore not applicable. The implementation of the designation system is still under consideration.

2. No legal questions of any nature have been raised with the Department of Transport by any person or group regarding the collection of such fees.

3. The Government Airport Concession Operations Regulations state, in part, that any person may pick up or transport passengers in a commercial passenger vehicle from a place outside the airport to a destination at the airport. Blue Line Taxi adheres to this regulation at the Ottawa International Airport, and is accorded the right to pick up passengers at the airport for carrying off the airport pursuant to the terms of its agreement with the Department of Transport.

4. Any taxi operating in a municipality in a manner that is in accord with the regulations of that municipality and such other municipalities as it operates in can transport a passenger to the airport and not be in conflict with Section 7(1 )(a) of the Government Airport Concession Operations Regulations. The Department does not have privity of contract with any arrangements Blue Line Taxi Limited may have with the Carleton Taxi Association members.

5. Yes, Blue Line Taxi Limited complies fully with Section 5 of its Licence as far as the Department is aware.

6. Yes, Blue Line Taxi Limited pays the fees as is stated.

7. The amount of gross revenue paid by Blue Line Taxi Limited or any other concession operator is confidential to the parties involved, unless the licence between Blue Line Taxi Limited and the Department does not contain such a provision.

8. The financial statements filed by Blue Line Taxi Limited in accordance with the terms of its licence do not indicate any cross subsidization among the taxicab, bus and limousine service.

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9. While Blue Line Taxi Limited has the right to do so, it has not operated a limousine service for a number of years. The bus service is on a self-supporting basis.

10. While public tenders are called at regular intervals at Transport Canada airports in respect to most concession activities in order to provide prospective concessionaires with the opportunity to bid on airport concessions and to permit Transport Canada to optimize its revenues, the optimization of revenues is however a secondary consideration when choosing a ground transportation operator. The Department's policy is to invite proposals from the ground transportation industry to respond to specific ground transportation service requirements. The successful operator is chosen by a committee comprised of Transport Canada representatives and representatives of the airlines serving the airport. The company judged to be the most capable of providing the level of service specified in the invitation is selected. Red Line Taxi Limited acquired the ground transportation concession in accordance with this general policy at a time when no other company was capable of providing the service. Blue Line Taxi Limited subsequently acquired the interests of Red Line Taxi and in so doing acquired the airport transportation licence. Proposals have not been invited from the industry as it is considered that Blue Line Taxi is providing an adequate level of service.

1. For the 1975-76 Fiscal year, what was the cost to taxpayers of construction, maintenance and repairs to federal penal institutions?

2. For the same year, what was the average cost to the taxpayer for maintaining one inmate in an institution?

3. For the same year, what was the total cost to the taxpayer for maintenance of all inmates in institutions?

4. For the same year, what was the total cost to the taxpayer for (a) education of inmates (b) sport and recreation facilities in institutions?

5. For the same year, what was the total cost to the taxpayer for sport and recreation facilities for senior citizens?

Mr. Ralph E. Goodale (Parliamentary Secretary to President of the Privy Council):

I am informed by the Canadian Penitentiary Service and Health and Welfare Canada as follows:

1. Cost of construction: $23,173,654. Repair and upkeep: $2,242,089.

2. $17,438.

3. $150,374,365.

4. (a) $1,292,248. (b) $303,334.

5. An amount of $1 1,338,188 was spent in 1975-76 for projects funded by the New Horizons Program. These funds were used to enable senior citizens to participate in a wide variety of meaningful activities of their own choice. New Horizons does not fund capital construction, however, some part of project grants may be used for minor renovations to existing activity centres.

Was Question No. 41 placed on the Order Paper on October 12, 1976 and previously placed on the Order Paper in the 1st Session of the 30th Parliament on May II, 1976 forwarded by the Privy Council Office to the department for answer and, if so (a) on what date (b) what persons forwarded it (c) who received it (d) who was assigned and what was his/her job designation to answer the question and on what date (e) is the answer ready and (i) if so, for how long and for what reason has it not been forthcoming (ii) if not, for what reason?

Mr. Ralph E. Goodale (Parliamentary Secretary to President of the Privy Council):

The government takes responsibility for the answers it provides to questions and for the process involved in replying to such questions. It is not appropriate therefore to provide information about internal administrative arrangements.

1. Will the government table the Final copy of the Task Force Report on the requirements for a second container terminal at the Port of Halifax?

2. (a) Will the government table the economic impact study undertaken for the Port of Halifax and Financed partly by the National Harbours Board (b) what consulting company undertook the study (c) on what date was it completed (d) what was the total cost of the study?

3. On what date was a copy made available to (a) NHB Halifax staff (b) staff of the Halifax Dartmouth Port Commission (c) the Halifax Port Authority?

Hon. Otto E. Lang (Minister of Transport):

The National Harbours Board advises as follows: 1. A Task Force on the requirements for a second container terminal at the Port of Halifax was a co-operative venture between the National Harbours Board and the Province of Nova Scotia. Although the complete report contains certain confidential data, the co-chairmen of the task force have agreed to release an executive summary of the report.

2. (a) Distribution of a study of the Economic Evaluation of the Halifax Containerport Expansion Project commissioned by the Province of Nova Scotia or any related information would require consent of the Province, (b) Same as 2(a). (c) Same as 2(a).

3. (a) As party to the Task Force, a copy of the report referred to in 2(a) above was provided to the National Harbours Board. Further distribution would have been made by the Province of Nova Scotia, (b) Same as 3(a). (c) Same as 3(a).

1. With reference to the answer to Question No. 1,943 which stated in part that the total costs of charges on other than local communications in the Department of Manpower and Immigration included in the Estimates for 1975-76 was $2,307,052, of this stated cost, how is the amount divided between (a) communications within Canada (b) overseas communications and, in each case (i) what communications methods were used (ii) what were the percentage costs of each method (iii) what amount and percentage of these costs was paid to communications companies other than Canadian?

2. With reference to the answer to Question No. 1,943 which stated in part that the total estimated costs of charges on other than local communications in

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the Department of Manpower and Immigration included in the Estimates for 1976-77 is $2,092,197, of this stated cost, how is the amount divided between (a) communications within Canada (b) overseas communications and, in each case (i) what are the anticipated modes of communication (ii) what are the estimated percentage costs of each method (iii) what is the estimated amount and percentage of these costs to be paid to communications companies other than Canadian?

Hon. Bud Cullen (Minister of Manpower and Immigration):

1. (a) and (b) Our departmental records do not differentiate between communications within Canada and Overseas communication. (i) Long distance-telegrams-cables; (ii) Long distance-$2,277,051-98.7 per cent; Telegrams-cables- $30,001-1.3 per cent; (iii) Nil.

2. (a) and (b) Our departmental records do not differentiate between communications within Canada and Overseas communication. (i) Long distance-telegrams-cables; (ii) Long distance-$2,070,883-99 per cent; Telegrams-cables- $21,314-1 per cent; (iii) Nil.

1. Was it government policy during wartime (1939 to 1945) to encourage the re-use, after a degree of reprocessing and purification, of automotive lubricating oils as fuels for home heating in an attempt to conserve scarce fossil fuel reserves?

2. Is the government (a) aware of (b) currently commissioning studies into the efficacy of this type of policy and, if so (i) on what date were such studies instituted (ii) have they been completed and, if not, on what date are they expected to be completed?

3. What have been the findings and recommendations of the studies?

4. Has official notice been taken of the studies, their findings and recommendations and, if so, in what form?

5. Has any action been taken on the recommendations and, if so, what specific action?

6. Will the studies be Tabled in the House of Commons or referred to a committee of the House and, if so, on what date?

Mr. Ralph E. Goodale (Parliamentary Secretary to President of the Privy Council):

I am informed by the Departments of Energy, Mines and Resources and Fisheries and the Environment as follows: 1. During the 1939 to 1945 war, the reprocessing of used lubricating oil for re-use as lubricating oils was Canadian government policy, but not for use as home heating fuels.

2. Studies of the reprocessing of automotive lubricating oil for re-use were initiated in 73. Much of the work has been completed but it still being evaluated by EMR and Environment Canada. The latter department published two reports in June 1975 entitled "Experimental burning of waste oil as a fuel in cement manufacture" as well as "A preliminary review of used lubricant oils in Canada".

3. It was found that the reprocessing of lubricating oils was feasible but in many cases had to be done by processes which were liable to cause pollution. It was recommended by Environment Canada that an optimum use of the reclaimed lubricating oil would be for use as a fuel in cement manufacture. In this use it would replace heavy fuel oil or other fuels and would not result in environmental pollution. Reclamation for use as lubricating oil was also recommended provided that

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proper environmental precautions were taken by the reprocessor. Several Canadian companies are presently reprocessing oil in this manner. Since a shortage of new lubricating oil is not envisaged, it was found that there is no specific incentive to reprocess the used lubricating oil to make new lubricating oil, provided that the used oil was used in some way to conserve energy. A major problem was the difficulty of collecting the used lubricating oil from many dispersed points. The use of reprocessed lubricating oil as home heating fuel was not recommended due to environmental hazards and to the fact that reprocessing for this purpose would be completely uneconomic.

4. Official notice has been taken of the studies by way of publication and wide dissemination of the results and recommendations in the Department of Fisheries and the Environment technical information series.

5. Tests have been run on cement manufacture using reclaimed lubricating oil and have been found successful. These result have been passed on to the cement industry which has been encouraged to use reclaimed oil in this manner. Further work is being planned by the Department of Fisheries and Environment in cooperation with industry and the provinces to encourage the establishment of systems for the collection and use of waste oil.

6. The reports mentioned in part 2 are available on request.