March 15, 1977

NDP

David Orlikow

New Democratic Party

Mr. David Orlikow (Winnipeg North):

In view of the fact that statistics released today show that over 16 per cent of our young people are now unemployed and in view of the very small number of people, mainly young people, who will be unemployed as a result of the implementation of the first phase of both the Canada Works and Canada Youth Works programs because only $60 million of the $200 million is being released now, will the minister consider recommending to his cabinet colleagues the release of the $160 million which is to be made available in October at this time so that we can use that money to put young people, who want to work, to work now instead at the end of a long summer?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SUGGESTED RELEASE OF FUNDS TO CREATE JOBS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE
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LIB

Donald Stovel Macdonald (Minister of Finance)

Liberal

Hon. Donald S. Macdonald (Acting Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, the response to this is inherent in the response I gave to the hon. member for Hamilton West. Indeed, one of the aspects that would have to be considered is whether, as opposed to changes in the fiscal policy and the taxation policy, it might be appropriate to increase or redirect funds into certain areas such as assistance for this particular group of the unemployed.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   SUGGESTED RELEASE OF FUNDS TO CREATE JOBS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE
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CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS

SC

Eudore Allard

Social Credit

Mr. Eudore Allard (Rimouski):

Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Transport.

In recent weeks many workers at the CN office in Rimouski and the surrounding region have been laid off. Could the minister tell the House why there is a sudden reduction in manpower in that place where the level of unemployment is already high?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS
Sub-subtopic:   REQUEST FOR EXPLANATION OF LAY-OFFS AT RIMOUSKI
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LIB

Otto Emil Lang (Minister of Transport; Minister responsible for the Canadian Wheat Board)

Liberal

Hon. Otto E. Lang (Minister of Transport):

Mr. Speaker, I do not know about this particular matter, but I will be glad to look into it.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS
Sub-subtopic:   REQUEST FOR EXPLANATION OF LAY-OFFS AT RIMOUSKI
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SC

Eudore Allard

Social Credit

Mr. Allard:

Mr. Speaker, could the minister tell the House if he intends to examine the situation of those workers and recommend their reintegration into other services of the CN?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS
Sub-subtopic:   REQUEST FOR EXPLANATION OF LAY-OFFS AT RIMOUSKI
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LIB

Otto Emil Lang (Minister of Transport; Minister responsible for the Canadian Wheat Board)

Liberal

Mr. Lang:

Mr. Speaker, for the time being I will content myself with trying to determine from CN what the facts are.

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Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS
Sub-subtopic:   REQUEST FOR EXPLANATION OF LAY-OFFS AT RIMOUSKI
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MANPOWER

PC

James Aloysius McGrath

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Janies A. McGrath (St. John's East):

Mr. Speaker, I wish to direct a question to the Minister of Manpower and Immigration on behalf of some of the unwilling non-participants in Quebec and the Atlantic provinces. Given the serious unemployment situation in those five provinces which has increased by 20 per cent in the last 12 months and given the forecast by the Conference Board that this region will see another increase during the present year of 17 per cent, can I ask the minister, also bearing in mind the fact that whatever budgetary measures are brought down by the minister in a few days time will have no immediate impact on the region, whether he is prepared to enter into discussions to provide for emergency programs now, programs which would expedite, for example, essential expenditures in the line of public works, transport and so on in a coordinated effort to provide jobs for this region?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   MANPOWER
Sub-subtopic:   EMERGENCY MEASURES TO CREATE EMPLOYMENT IN NEWFOUNDLAND
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LIB

Jack Sydney George (Bud) Cullen (Minister of Manpower and Immigration)

Liberal

Hon. Jack Cullen (Minister of Manpower and Immigration):

Although the unemployment rate for Newfoundland did in fact increase there was also a sharp rise in employment in the province.

An bon. Member: Go on!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   MANPOWER
Sub-subtopic:   EMERGENCY MEASURES TO CREATE EMPLOYMENT IN NEWFOUNDLAND
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LIB

Jack Sydney George (Bud) Cullen (Minister of Manpower and Immigration)

Liberal

Mr. Cullen:

An hon. member says "Go on!" but that is the case. Employment in Newfoundland did, in fact, increase; there was a larger increase in the size of the labour force,

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thereby increasing the size of the unemployment. It is not a question of reacting in panic at the last minute. It was indicated back in October that we foresaw high levels of unemployment in the area this winter and it was for that reason the government saw fit to put $158 million into job creation programs. It is not a question of reacting in panic at the last minute. I might say to the hon. member that his colleagues on this side of the House brought so much pressure to bear that Newfoundland will actually rate fourth in the sums of money which will be paid into the provinces.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   MANPOWER
Sub-subtopic:   EMERGENCY MEASURES TO CREATE EMPLOYMENT IN NEWFOUNDLAND
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PC

James Aloysius McGrath

Progressive Conservative

Mr. McGrath:

It is disheartening to learn that the minister draws any satisfaction from these disastrous figures in my own province showing an increase of 1.5 per cent over this time last year for a real rate of 17.4 per cent, not to mention the numbers who are unemployed-about 25,000-but who do not appear on official records. I ask the minister, notwithstanding any programs already in place, given the serious situation which exists now, at least to take into consideration the suggestion made by the Leader of the Opposition and other members of the House to refunnel government programs in this region, especially in my own province and Quebec, to expedite public works projects to provide jobs now, not down the road when the minister's economic policies are in place.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   MANPOWER
Sub-subtopic:   EMERGENCY MEASURES TO CREATE EMPLOYMENT IN NEWFOUNDLAND
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LIB

Jack Sydney George (Bud) Cullen (Minister of Manpower and Immigration)

Liberal

Mr. Cullen:

I take no refuge whatsoever in the figures. I indicated that there was in fact concern. I thought there should be some measure of balance by indicating that employment did in fact increase in that particular province. I do not think it is any answer to react in panic to the situation. We recognized what the situation was going to be and for that reason we put this kind of money into Canada Works and Young Canada Works and a series of other projects and we indicated this would be done last October. We do not wait until the very last minute and then say I think in panic we should react and do something else.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   MANPOWER
Sub-subtopic:   EMERGENCY MEASURES TO CREATE EMPLOYMENT IN NEWFOUNDLAND
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CONSULTATION WITH PRIVATE SECTOR ON JOINT PROGRAMS TO INCREASE EMPLOYMENT

PC

Frank Oberle

Progressive Conservative

Mr. F. Oberle (Prince George-Peace River):

Mr. Speaker, my question, too, is for the Minister of Manpower and Immigration. Is it the intention of the government, in the light of the fact that various job creation programs enacted by the government have not had the desired effect and have in some areas been counter productive, to enter into consultation with the private sector such as the Canadian Manufacturers Association or, in the case of British Columbia, the resource industries, to work out joint programs which would not only stimulate the economy but people to work?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CONSULTATION WITH PRIVATE SECTOR ON JOINT PROGRAMS TO INCREASE EMPLOYMENT
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LIB

Jack Sydney George (Bud) Cullen (Minister of Manpower and Immigration)

Liberal

Hon. Jack Cullen (Minister of Manpower and Immigration):

As my colleague, the Minister of Finance, has indicated it is precisely for that reason that he met with his opposite numbers. I met with my opposite numbers in the provinces to indicate how, at the government level, we could do specific things. There will be other areas which will be announced in the budget, as the minister said, on March 31 and which will

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have the appropriate impact so far as private enterprise is concerned.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CONSULTATION WITH PRIVATE SECTOR ON JOINT PROGRAMS TO INCREASE EMPLOYMENT
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FINANCE

PC

Frank Oberle

Progressive Conservative

Mr. F. Oberle (Prince George-Peace River):

Could I ask the Minister of Finance in order to accommodate joint job creation programs, and I am talking about government and industry rather than government and government, whether he is prepared to accommodate such programs in his budget and adjust the fiscal program in the light of tax concessions to industry so that this kind of program could be implemented shortly after budget day?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FINANCE
Sub-subtopic:   POSSIBILITY OF BUDGETARY ACCOMMODATION OF GOVERNMENT AND INDUSTRY JOINT JOB CREATION PROGRAMS
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LIB

Donald Stovel Macdonald (Minister of Finance)

Liberal

Hon. Donald S. Macdonald (Acting Prime Minister):

I will consider the hon. member's suggestion.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FINANCE
Sub-subtopic:   POSSIBILITY OF BUDGETARY ACCOMMODATION OF GOVERNMENT AND INDUSTRY JOINT JOB CREATION PROGRAMS
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MANPOWER

March 15, 1977