October 19, 1976

LIB

Marcel-Claude Roy (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Roy (Laval):

Would the hon. member for Joliette allow me a question?

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John Napier Turner

Liberal

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Turner):

Will the hon. member for Joliette (Mr. La Salle) accept a question at this time?

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Roch La Salle

Progressive Conservative

Mr. La Salle:

Mr. Speaker, I don't want to lose any of my time; so, if the hon. member for Laval wishes to ask me a question when I am through speaking, I shall be pleased to answer him then.

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LIB

John Napier Turner

Liberal

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Turner):

Order, please. The hon. member for Joliette has the floor.

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Roch La Salle

Progressive Conservative

Mr. La Salle:

I say now that I shall be pleased to answer any question anyone wants to put to me then.

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LIB

John Napier Turner

Liberal

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Turner):

Order, please. The hon. member for Joliette has the floor and I would suggest we listen to him.

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Roch La Salle

Progressive Conservative

Mr. La Salle:

To my mind, Mr. Speaker, at this point in time, it will not be difficult to answer my friends across the way because we have asked for answers for a long time now without getting them.

I shall now speak of a most important matter, Mr. Speaker, that of bilingualism. My colleague from Saint-Hyacinthe (Mr. Wagner) made a brilliant speech last Friday. Should I remind some of my colleagues in this House to read again the important speech he made and his rebuttal? It answers fully the question of bilingualism. So, I have no wish to take up any of the time allotted me to repeat the remarks, which were very much to the point, made in this House by a very competent man.

But 1 should not want to close my remarks without asking my friends opposite who seem to want to put questions to me and who wonder today: How come two by-elections were in our favour last night?

I cannot help repeating the criticisms levelled at the government in my constituency. In 1974, when the government went to the people and tried to make us look ridiculous because we favoured price controls in an attempt to check inflation, the leader of the government before us today promised that they would never resort to such a policy.

Mr. Speaker, I say today that this government was elected in 1974 under false pretences. I say, Mr. Speaker, that if the people of Canada have now lost confidence in the government, it is because they blame it, with good reason, for having deceived them. You cannot deceive a people and deceive businessmen as the government did, and you cannot deceive labour as the government did in 1974. Today, Canadians are starting to wonder. I know that my friends opposite are asking themselves some questions today. They are unhappy and I understand them. When a government makes such a promise in order to get elected and makes an unacceptable reversal six or seven months later, the Canadian people know what is going on. What we have witnessed last night, Mr. Speaker, will be repeated throughout the country, because the Canadian people

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did not like being deceived in this way. For these reasons, Mr. Speaker, the government has lost the confidence of the people, it is losing a minister every three months, and it is losing every by-election. I say to this government that if it holds by-elections, we shall defeat them one by one each month. They should stop asking: What is happening to us? They should stop trying to review a particular policy and to make believe that the lack of popularity of this government is due to some division in the country on the bilingualism issue. The terrible economic performance of this government and the fraud of 1974 are the two causes of its lack of popularity, and I think that the public did the right thing last night in the Ottawa-Carleton consitituency, as well as in the riding of St. John's, Newfoundland, and, a year ago, in the riding of Hochelaga, which was an uncontested Liberal stronghold at the time; this drop in popularity started a year ago and we expect this government to have enough of a sense of honour to resign. We are ready to face the challenge of running Canada properly.

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Marcel-Claude Roy (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Roy (Laval):

May I ask a question, Mr. Speaker?

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John Napier Turner

Liberal

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Turner):

Will the hon. member for Joliette now accept the question from the hon. member for Laval (Mr. Roy)?

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Roch La Salle

Progressive Conservative

Mr. La Salle:

Certainly, Mr. Speaker.

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Marcel-Claude Roy (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Roy (Laval):

Mr. Speaker, if the hon. member for Joliette would allow me a question regarding the elimination of that levy, I would ask him how he would dispose of milk powder surpluses which are now piling up in warehouses?

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Roch La Salle

Progressive Conservative

Mr. La Salle:

I am pleased to answer such a question, Mr. Speaker. The hon. member is asking me how milk powder surpluses would be stored. If the hon. member for Laval would consider what happened, he would recognize that his government was too weak to compete with the European Community, and in order to secure new markets for all kinds of products, the European Community was allowed to subsidize their producers on the European side to force our dairy producers to pay for storage and milk powder. We never accepted that, and this government, in order to save the dairy industry, must store these stocks and develop a long term policy for a period of three to Five years because it is unthinkable to develop short term policies in this area. Therefore, had the government taken their responsibilities, they would never have applied to dairy producers the milk powder export levy. They would have acted as the Americans did five years ago. They would have supported dairy producers and we would now have a healthy dairy industry. Again, I blame the government in this regard.

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LIB

John Napier Turner

Liberal

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Turner):

The hon. member for Trinity (Miss Nicholson).

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Max Saltsman

New Democratic Party

Mr. Saltsman:

I rise on a question of privilege, Mr. Speaker.

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LIB

John Napier Turner

Liberal

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Turner):

The hon. member for Waterloo-Cambridge (Mr. Saltsman).

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Max Saltsman

New Democratic Party

Mr. Saltsman:

Mr. Speaker, under the rules of the House which state that a question of privilege should be raised at the earliest opportunity I should like to raise a question of privilege particularly now that the Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs (Mr. Abbott) is in the House. My question is in regard to the debate that took place this afternoon in which the minister intervened and took some exception to my pointing out that it was Hercules who cleaned out the Augean stables. He insisted that it was Ulysses. I have had a chance to check Greek mythology since that interjection. The records show that I was correct and that the minister's knowledge of Greek mythology is somewhat deficient.

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Anthony Chisholm Abbott (Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. Abbott:

Mr. Speaker, on the question of privilege-

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LIB

John Napier Turner

Liberal

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Turner):

Order, please. Standing Order 17 states:

(1) Whenever any matter of privilege arises, it shall be taken into consideration immediately or at a time appointed by Mr. Speaker.

The hon. member for Trinity.

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Jacques Flynn (Leader of the Opposition in the Senate)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Flynn:

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a question of privilege.

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LIB

John Napier Turner

Liberal

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Turner):

The hon. member for Kitchener (Mr. Flynn) on a question of privilege.

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October 19, 1976