May 31, 1976

NDP

Francis Andrew Brewin

New Democratic Party

Mr. Brewin:

A supplementary question, Mr. Speaker. May I ask the minister whether it would not be reasonable for him, instead of talking about attempted blackmail by the military, to accept at least some of the responsibility for his department's failure to fulfill its financial responsibilities?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   LOCKHEED CONTRACT-ALLEGATION MINISTER BLAMING DEFENCE DEPARTMENT FOR NOT INFORMING HIM ABOUT LACK OF FUNDS
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LIB

Jean-Pierre Goyer (Minister of Supply and Services)

Liberal

Mr. Goyer:

Mr. Speaker, the hon. member is being very generous in trying to cast blame right and left. I will do just that for him since he has asked. The hon. member should know that the government operates in such a way that whenever a department asks us to proceed with a purchase, it must ascertain that it has sufficient funds to do so. The hon. member will understand that we have no other alternative since there are hundreds of purchase contracts each year and since we cannot possibly go back to the purchasing department and check its books to see if the funds are available. Perhaps the hon. member could check his own books to learn how the government operates.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   LOCKHEED CONTRACT-ALLEGATION MINISTER BLAMING DEFENCE DEPARTMENT FOR NOT INFORMING HIM ABOUT LACK OF FUNDS
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AIRPORTS

LIB

Eymard G. Corbin

Liberal

Mr. Eymard Corbin (Madawaska-Victoria):

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Transport. In view of the fact that the legislative assembly of New Brunswick will be considering a motion later this week dealing with an airport development in northwest New Brunswick, which development is almost entirely within federal jurisdiction, would the minister now inform the House of recent developments and plans by his department to build an airport at Saint Leonard, New Brunswick, with jet capability?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   AIRPORTS
Sub-subtopic:   ST. LEONARD, NEW BRUNSWICK-REQUEST FOR DETAILS OF GOVERNMENT'S PLANS
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LIB

Otto Emil Lang (Minister of Transport; Minister responsible for the Canadian Wheat Board)

Liberal

Hon. Otto E. Lang (Minister of Transport):

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate being given responsibility for the main part of the judgment in relation to this airport, though I would see also a certain involvement for both the province and the Department of Regional Economic Expansion in this connection. However, I can tell the hon. member that following the very strong representations that I have received from him and other members of this House from northern New Brunswick, I have been re-examining the position of the Saint Leonard airport and have asked my department to put before me a possible plan from which I can attempt to sort out the terms of funding, either by ourselves or with the co-operation of the other agencies to which I have referred.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   AIRPORTS
Sub-subtopic:   ST. LEONARD, NEW BRUNSWICK-REQUEST FOR DETAILS OF GOVERNMENT'S PLANS
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HAMILTON-DECISION ON FUNDS FOR UPGRADING AREA FACILITIES

PC

Lincoln MacCauley Alexander

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Lincoln M. Alexander (Hamilton West):

Mr. Speaker, I have a supplementary question for the minister. In view of his interest in airports, may I ask the minister whether in fact the government is still committed to $25

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million with respect to the upgrading of airports in the Hamilton area, or has restraint allowed the government to have second thoughts? This matter is a little fuzzy back in Hamilton.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   HAMILTON-DECISION ON FUNDS FOR UPGRADING AREA FACILITIES
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LIB

Otto Emil Lang (Minister of Transport; Minister responsible for the Canadian Wheat Board)

Liberal

Hon. Otto E. Lang (Minister of Transport):

Mr. Speaker, we are still committed to providing adequate service in the Hamilton area and would want to do that as soon as we can reach some conclusions about the forward look of their airport services in that area. There is at the present time a committee, including a strong community involvement, determining such issues as the location and the timing of an airport, and obviously we need that kind of input before making a final decision. But certainly it is our intention to offer improved airport service to the Hamilton area.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   HAMILTON-DECISION ON FUNDS FOR UPGRADING AREA FACILITIES
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PC

Lincoln MacCauley Alexander

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Alexander:

A supplementary question, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the answer that the minister gave but I specifically asked him about the $25 million which was offered by his counterpart some two or three years ago. I am asking the minister now whether the commitment of $25 million still stands, in light of the fact that inflation could have some bearing? I just want a yes or no, I do not want a long answer as to what the minister intends to do in certain circumstances. Is there a commitment?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   HAMILTON-DECISION ON FUNDS FOR UPGRADING AREA FACILITIES
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LIB

Otto Emil Lang (Minister of Transport; Minister responsible for the Canadian Wheat Board)

Liberal

Mr. Lang:

Mr. Speaker, I hope he will accept this slightly longer answer. The amount involved is probably higher than that.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   HAMILTON-DECISION ON FUNDS FOR UPGRADING AREA FACILITIES
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PC

Lincoln MacCauley Alexander

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Alexander:

That is great.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   HAMILTON-DECISION ON FUNDS FOR UPGRADING AREA FACILITIES
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FISHERIES

PC

Lloyd Roseville Crouse

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Lloyd R. Crouse (South Shore):

Mr. Speaker, I wish to direct my question to the Minister of State (Fisheries). In view of the fact that Canada's fisheries resources are constantly declining, while at the same time Ottawa is making bilateral fisheries agreements with foreign countries without knowing the actual amount of existing fish stocks and, I might add, without consultation with the premiers of the provinces concerned, will the minister give an early indication of what the Canadian posture will be concerning the future of ICNAF after we secure the 200-mile fishing limit?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FISHERIES
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN POSITION ON ICNAF AFTER DECLARATION OF 200-MILE LIMIT
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LIB

Roméo LeBlanc (Minister of State (Fisheries))

Liberal

Hon. Romeo LeBlanc (Minister of State (Fisheries)):

Mr. Speaker, we have made it clear that the regulations will be consistent with the regulations that would normally apply to a coastal state for the coming year, that is 1977. As to the statement by the hon. member about bilateral treaties, I wish he would read those treaties very carefully. They make it clear that the allowable catch would be fixed by Canada and not by an international organization. They make it clear that Canada would have its needs completely satisfied in relation to conservation measures, and that surpluses will be allocated by Canada to foreign fishing fleets. We are trading away nothing. To the contrary, we are claiming what will be ours within that zone.

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Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FISHERIES
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN POSITION ON ICNAF AFTER DECLARATION OF 200-MILE LIMIT
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CALGARY-DATE OF COMPLETION OF FACILITIES- POSSIBILITY OF CHANGE IN PLANS

PC

Eldon Mattison Woolliams

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Eldon M. Woolliams (Calgary North):

Mr. Speaker, in light of the fact the Minister of Finance has talked about an expansion in exploration and development of natural gas, and in light of the fact that over 2 million people visit southern Alberta as tourists, will the Minister of Transport now tell us, and he has been promising this since 1965, that the air depot in Calgary will be completed for use? I would point out that at the present time there is still a question about sanitation and working conditions at that depot.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CALGARY-DATE OF COMPLETION OF FACILITIES- POSSIBILITY OF CHANGE IN PLANS
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LIB

Otto Emil Lang (Minister of Transport; Minister responsible for the Canadian Wheat Board)

Liberal

Hon. Otto E. Lang (Minister of Transport):

Mr. Speaker, regarding the more detailed and different phases of construction at Calgary I will be glad to report to the hon. member. There is, of course, a massive amount of construction going on there which I think is on schedule, but I will be glad to look at the schedule of the particular items to which he refers.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CALGARY-DATE OF COMPLETION OF FACILITIES- POSSIBILITY OF CHANGE IN PLANS
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PC

Eldon Mattison Woolliams

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Woolliams:

Mr. Speaker, while he is checking that perhaps he might look to see whether the original plans have been scrapped because the facilities have now been found to be too small, requiring a redrafting and complete change of the whole plan? Will he check that out also?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CALGARY-DATE OF COMPLETION OF FACILITIES- POSSIBILITY OF CHANGE IN PLANS
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PENSIONS

PC

Marcel Joseph Aimé Lambert

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Marcel Lambert (Edmonton West):

Mr. Speaker, my question is to the President of the Treasury Board. I believe at the end of the question period last Friday the minister had the answer to the question I asked earlier during that question period and also on Wednesday last.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   PENSIONS
Sub-subtopic:   POSSIBILITY OF DEFERRED PAYMENTS INTO SUPERANNUATION ACCOUNT
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May 31, 1976