February 27, 1976

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An hon. Member:

Wealth and Helfare.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   INQUIRY WHETHER ONTARIO RECEIVING THE FULL FIFTY PER CENT CONTRIBUTION
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PC

William C. Scott

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Scott:

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of National Health and Welfare. Is the province of Ontario receiving under the present formula the 50 per cent it was promised when it came into the contract? Is it receiving that amount in respect of present day medicare expenditures?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   INQUIRY WHETHER ONTARIO RECEIVING THE FULL FIFTY PER CENT CONTRIBUTION
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LIB

Marc Lalonde (Minister responsible for the Status of Women; Minister of Amateur Sport; Minister of National Health and Welfare)

Liberal

Hon. Marc Lalonde (Minister of National Health and Welfare):

Mr. Speaker, I can assure the hon. member that the province of Ontario receives every dollar and cent to which it is entitled under the law. The money is provided under the Hospital Insurance and Diagnostic Services Act by way of agreements with the province of Ontario. I have never had a complaint about this from the province of Ontario since my appointment as Minister of National Health and Welfare or, for that matter, from any other part of the country.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   INQUIRY WHETHER ONTARIO RECEIVING THE FULL FIFTY PER CENT CONTRIBUTION
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PC

William C. Scott

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Scott:

Mr. Speaker, may I ask the minister a supplementary question? Does the minister not agree that under the formula now used, the province of Ontario is receiving less than 50 per cent of its actual cost?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   INQUIRY WHETHER ONTARIO RECEIVING THE FULL FIFTY PER CENT CONTRIBUTION
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LIB

Marc Lalonde (Minister responsible for the Status of Women; Minister of Amateur Sport; Minister of National Health and Welfare)

Liberal

Mr. Lalonde:

Mr. Speaker, the province of Ontario is receiving exactly what it is entitled to under the law passed by this parliament. The law provides for a costsharing formula for hospital operations, under the Hospital Insurance and Diagnostic Services Act. The province of Ontario has never complained that it is not getting every penny to which it is entitled.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   INQUIRY WHETHER ONTARIO RECEIVING THE FULL FIFTY PER CENT CONTRIBUTION
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FISHERIES

PC

Alexander Bell Patterson

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Alex Patterson (Fraser Valley East):

Mr. Speaker, may I direct my question to the minister in charge of fisheries? In view of the imminent spring run-off and consequential threat of further flooding in the Fraser

Valley, what decision has the minister's department taken with respect to requests for necessary dredging of the Vedder River in the municipality of Chilliwack?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FISHERIES
Sub-subtopic:   DECISION ON DREDGING VEDDER RIVER IN BRITISH COLUMBIA-REQUEST FOR REPORT
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LIB

Roméo LeBlanc (Minister of State (Fisheries))

Liberal

Hon. Romeo LeBlanc (Minister of State (Fisheries)):

Mr. Speaker, I thought that, after consultations, this matter had been sorted out. I will check into it and inform the hon. member. I am sure that he will accept that we must protect spawning grounds.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   FISHERIES
Sub-subtopic:   DECISION ON DREDGING VEDDER RIVER IN BRITISH COLUMBIA-REQUEST FOR REPORT
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BILINGUALISM

PC

Walter David Baker (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Walter Baker (Grenville-Carleton):

Mr. Speaker, my question to the Secretary of State arises from the announcement with respect to the termination of funding to school boards for second language training in the national capital area. As Mr. Spicer, commissioner of official languages, suggested that we ought to emphasize language training in our school system, perhaps as opposed to emphasizing it in the Public Service of Canada, will the minister explain the contradiction inherent in the dropping of this program, when it had been generally agreed by all parties that it was one of the finest programs the minister's department has brought forth? Dropping the program will jeopardize the future of those in the national capital area already involved in the immersion program.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   BILINGUALISM
Sub-subtopic:   REASON FOR NOT CONTINUING FUNDING OF EXPERIMENTAL PROGRAM FOR SECOND LANGUAGE TRAINING
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LIB

James Hugh Faulkner (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Hon. James Hugh Faulkner (Secretary of State):

Mr. Speaker, there has been no termination of funding, in the sense that the formula payments will apply to the national capital region, as they apply across the country. This involves the federal government paying 9 per cent of the cost per student in an extended French program. What has come to an end is an experimental program which the boards of education and the province of Ontario agreed, in the beginning, would be a two-year program. Last year they came to me and said, "Listen, we have not completed the experiment; would you help us through a third year?"

I agreed. Therefore, the suggestion that we have now terminated the formula payments or payments for the support of extended French training in the national capital region is false.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   BILINGUALISM
Sub-subtopic:   REASON FOR NOT CONTINUING FUNDING OF EXPERIMENTAL PROGRAM FOR SECOND LANGUAGE TRAINING
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PC

Walter David Baker (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Baker (Grenville-Carleton):

Mr. Speaker, I concede that it was an experimental program and extended. Judging from the reaction of the boards, there is a necessity for its continuation. As the program will cost about $4 million, whereas the government is prepared to spend $8 million refurbishing the East Block, and as this language program in the national capital area may be the forerunner of similar programs in other parts of Canada if it is allowed to continue, would the minister consider giving the program as high a priority as the government is giving the refurbishing of the East Block?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   BILINGUALISM
Sub-subtopic:   REASON FOR NOT CONTINUING FUNDING OF EXPERIMENTAL PROGRAM FOR SECOND LANGUAGE TRAINING
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LIB

James Alexander Jerome (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please.

February 27, 1976

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   BILINGUALISM
Sub-subtopic:   REASON FOR NOT CONTINUING FUNDING OF EXPERIMENTAL PROGRAM FOR SECOND LANGUAGE TRAINING
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INCOME TAX

NDP

Max Saltsman

New Democratic Party

Mr. Max Saltsman (Waterloo-Cambridge):

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of National Revenue. On June 12, 1973, the minister's predecessor announced in a speech to the Inter-American Centre of Tax Administrators that the government was launching a campaign to crack down on multinationals evading taxes. On November 19, 1975, the current minister announced the formation of a joint U.S.-Canada committee to study the same question. On February 23, 1976, the minister's department announced that because of spending restraints, all such plans had been shelved. While a penny saved may be a penny earned, in this case, does the minister feel that the savings in wages and salaries outweigh the loss of foregone corporate taxes?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   INCOME TAX
Sub-subtopic:   REASON FOR NOT PROCEEDING WITH PLANS TO CO-OPERATE WITH UNITED STATES TO PREVENT TAX EVASION BY MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS
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LIB

Jack Sydney George (Bud) Cullen (Minister of National Revenue)

Liberal

Hon. Jack Cullen (Minister of National Revenue):

Mr. Speaker, within a month after my appointment to this portfolio, I met with Don Alexander, the Commissioner of Internal Revenue Service in the United States. We set up a committee to look into how we might act under the Canada-United States tax treaty to get at multinationals and transnationals which are using the tax haven to avoid taxes. Mr. Alexander will be back here following the report of that committee. We will be meeting again. I, like every other minister, would like to have all the resources necessary. Personally, I do not think it is a waste of money. I think it is an investment to get back the hundreds of millions of dollars. To me, a tax haven is anathema. Within the scope that we have, both the resources, financial and man-years, we will do our best to plug these particular abuses.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   INCOME TAX
Sub-subtopic:   REASON FOR NOT PROCEEDING WITH PLANS TO CO-OPERATE WITH UNITED STATES TO PREVENT TAX EVASION BY MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS
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NDP

Max Saltsman

New Democratic Party

Mr. Saltsman:

Mr. Speaker, there is no question of a tax haven. It is a question of transfer of income from the Canadian tax collector to the United States tax collector. Is the minister so naive as to believe that the government of the United States is going to help us reduce their tax collection in favour of Canada?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   INCOME TAX
Sub-subtopic:   REASON FOR NOT PROCEEDING WITH PLANS TO CO-OPERATE WITH UNITED STATES TO PREVENT TAX EVASION BY MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS
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LIB

Jack Sydney George (Bud) Cullen (Minister of National Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. Cullen:

Mr. Speaker, I am not so naive as to think we are going to get any co-operation by the use of this anti-American nonsense we hear from time to time. We are trying to work together in the best interests of taxpayers of both countries.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   INCOME TAX
Sub-subtopic:   REASON FOR NOT PROCEEDING WITH PLANS TO CO-OPERATE WITH UNITED STATES TO PREVENT TAX EVASION BY MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS
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ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE

LIB

Denis Éthier

Liberal

Mr. Denis Ethier (Glengarry-Prescott-Russell):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to put a question to the Solicitor General.

After a raid in a Hawkesbury home on February 19, 1976, at 4.20 in the morning, even though the RCMP had

Oral Questions

been misinformed by the local police, can the minister tell the House if he will personally apologize on behalf of the RCMP to the members of Mr. Georges Therien's family who, beyond all question, have been deeply humiliated, and particularly for the messy condition in which their home was left, as he will find out when he reads the report.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE
Sub-subtopic:   POSSIBILITY OF APOLOGY TO THERIEN FAMILY FOR ERRONEOUS RAID
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February 27, 1976