Mr. John M. Reid (Parliamentary Secretary to President of the Privy Council):

Mr. Speaker, the following questions will be answered today: 199, 440, 464, 469, 502, 539, 644, 694, 806, 865, 925, 1,014, 1,016, 1,027, 1,101, 1,154, 1,156, 1,163, 1,193, 1,245, 1,300, 1,309, 1,320 and 1,370.

If questions Nos. 365, 447, 570, 576, 709, 1,185 and starred question No. 781 could be made orders for return these returns will be tabled immediately.

Mr. Speaker, would you be so kind as to call starred question No. 788?

I ask that the remaining questions be allowed to stand. [Text]

1. On what basis does the Department of Manpower and Immigration judge the efficiency and effectiveness of the aid to immigrants by the groups funded under the Settlement Services Contract System?

2. Are only two of the groups located outside the Cities of Montreal and Toronto in the Provinces of Ontario and Quebec and, if so, what specific steps are being taken to provide adjustment and settlement service in the eight provinces not covered by similar volunteer organization?

Hon. Robert K. Andras (Minister of Manpower and Immigration):

1. The efficiency and effectiveness of aid to immigrants given by groups funded by the Department of Manpower and Immigration are judged on the basis of their demonstrated performance related to their aims and objectives as stated at the time funding is granted.

2. More immigrants settle in Toronto and Montreal than in any other Canadian cities. There are, of course, voluntary groups funded by the Department of Manpower and Immigration that provide direct settlement assistance to these immigrants. Groups that provide a similar service to immigrants and receive funds from the department are also located in such cities as Three Rivers, Hamilton, Windsor, Edmonton and Vancouver. Officers of the department are currently evaluating submissions received from other voluntary groups in various locations to determine whether they meet departmental criteria. Those that do, will be eligible for financial assistance. At the present time, many voluntary groups, in addition to those mentioned above, perform a very valuable function in the settlement and integration of immigrants in many communities throughout Canada. In addition, the department is strengthening its capability to co-ordinate these services through its regional and local offices across Canada so that, wherever possible, immigrants may receive assistance in the location in which they live.

With reference to public charges made in March, 1974 by Mr, Clinton Marsh of Watertown, New York, Chairman of the Thousand Island Bridge Authority, to the effect that the government has shown only

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"lip service" and "cool disinterest" towards certain important matters on which the Bridge Authority has been seeking government decision for almost five years, what is the reason the government has not made the requested decisions, on what date will the government make such decisions and, specifically, will the government offer immediate cooperation to Mr. Marsh and his associates with a view to arriving at mutually agreeable solutions to points in question?

Hon. Allan J. MacEachen (Secretary of State for External Affairs):

The government is not yet in a position to proceed with consideration of this matter because of the delays which have been encountered in obtaining engineering and financial information from the Thousand Islands Bridge Authority.

At what specific locations and on what dates will the estimated $3,000,000 a year be spent to upgrade existing married quarters throughout Canada for Armed Forces personnel, as indicated in answer to Question No. 173 of the Second Session of the 29th Parliament?

Hon. James Richardson (Minister of National Defence):

The locations and forecasted expenditures for 1974/75 for the upgrading of existing married quarters for Armed Forces personnel are as follows:

Nova Scotia

Barrington $ 4,000

Greenwood 231,000

Halifax 189,000

Prince Edward Island

Summerside 225,000

New Brunswick

Chatham 77,900

Gagetown 202,000

Quebec

Chibougamau 24,500

Moisie 7,000

St. Jean 18,000

Val cartier 113,000

Ontario

Borden 118,000

Kingston 305,000

Moosonee 15,600

Ottawa 87,700

Petawawa 90,000

Toronto 137,200

Trenton 90,900

Manitoba

Gypsumville 125,000

Shilo 97,000

Saskatchewan

Alsask 36,400

Dana 90,500

Yorkton 25,700

Alberta

Calgary 20,000

Cold Lake 295,000

Edmonton 230,400

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British Columbia

Chilliwack 50,000

Esquimalt 15,000

Masset 25,000

Total 2,946,500

With respect to the report of the Auditor General for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1973, what is (a) the amount (b) number of accounts (c) debtor of all the long standing Department of National Defence Accounts mentioned in Article 41 of the report?

Hon. James Richardson (Minister of National Defence):

The amount, number of accounts and debtor of all long standing Department of National Defence accounts mentioned in Article 41 of the Auditor General report for fiscal year ending 31 March, 1973, are listed below:

Amount Number of Accounts Debtor*7,241,205.03 5 United Nations1,433,838.81 1 Indo-China Truce20,211.03 1 Supervisory Commission British Columbia654,259.80 3 Newfoundland81,174.81 3 Nova Scotia43,014.10 1 Prince Edward Island5,212.23 1 Quebec54,054.04 2 Saskatchewan11,273.85 1 Northwest Territories

Is the government giving consideration to preventing the carrying out of trawling operations in the Bras d'Or Lakes?

Mr. Len Marchand (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of the Environment):

A prohibition on dragging for groundfish in the Bras d'Or Lakes is not being considered at this time, but certain regulatory conditions are being considered for the management of this fishery. The intent of these regulations would be to preclude interference with the lobster season and with herring spawning which occurs in the spring. Oyster raking and the commercial salmon berths would not be affected because both operations are conducted in shallow water near the shore. A meeting was also held recently with interested local fishermen. The proposed regulations and the potential of the resource that could be harvested was outlined in detail. Further meetings on this subject are expected to be held shortly to permit further discussions and expression of views.

Order Paper Questions NATIONAL DEFENCE-CADET UNITS

1. Is any consideration being given to granting officer status to those World War II veterans who wish to take part in the initiation and training of Armed Forces Cadets?

2. Is consideration being given to reducing the required size of Armed Forces Cadet units in smaller communities?

Hon. James Richardson (Minister of National Defence):

1. The granting of commissioned rank in the Cadet Instructors List to World War II veterans has been in effect since the end of World War II provided that the applicants meet the prerequisites contained in the Canadian Forces order attached as Annex A.

2. The formation of a cadet unit is authorized when it has been established that there is sufficient youth interest in the community and the availability of youth leaders to justify the expense of setting up and supporting a cadet unit. The required potential cadet strength has been set at 35. In small communities however, or in remote locations, a minimum strength of 25 will be accepted if this is recommended by the provincial committee of the relevant cadet league.

1. What transport contracts have been awarded by the Privy Council Office to Lapointe Transport Ltd., 105 Industriel Blvd., Longueuil, Quebec, since January 1, 1972?

2. What was the amount of the contract in each case?

3. Were public tenders called in each case and, if not, for what reason?

Right Hon. P. E. Trudeau (Prime Minister):

1. None.

2. Not applicable.

3. Not applicable.

1. Are the individuals involved in the Changing of the Guard ceremony on Parliament Hill regular soldiers, cadets, students, etc ?

2. How are they identified and what is the remuneration?

Hon. James Richardson (Minister of National Defertce):

1. The personnel who take part in the Changing of the Guard ceremony on Parliament Hill are members of the reserves from two militia units; the Governor General's Foot Guards of Ottawa and the Canadian Grenadier Guards of Montreal. Although all personnel are members of the reserves, approximately 50 per cent are university students recruited by the two units during winter and spring specifically for employment in the Changing of the Guard detachment.

2. The members of this detachment, when not in full dress uniform, are identified by their unit cap badges. Their remuneration is dependant on length of service and experience as well as their rank in the reserves and varies from $14.50 per day, 7 days a week basic pay for a private

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to $44.50 per day, 7 days a week for the major who commands the detachment.

Other than the corruption provisions of the criminal law that apply to a Minister of the Crown as a public official, is there any code of conduct that obliges a Minister, not simply to observe the criminal law, but to (a) act in a manner so scrupulous that his conduct will bear the closest public scrutiny in terms of moral standards, objectivity and equality of treatment to all citizens (b) give no special treatment on the ground of personal acquaintance, sympathy or anything of that kind (c) reflect, in attitudes and conduct, the elementary qualification of honesty and incorruptibility (d) refrain from placing himself in a position where he is under obligation to any person who might profit from special consideration or favour on the part of the Minister or ministerial colleague or who might seek in any way to gain special treatment from the Minister or ministerial colleague (e) divest himself of any pecuniary interest that could even remotely conflict with the discharge of his public duty?

Mr. John M. Reid (Parliamentary Secretary to President of the Privy Council):

The government policy regarding standards of conduct for Minister of the Crown can be found in House of Commons Debates for July 18, (p. 5735 et seq.) and December 18, 1973 (p. 8837 et seq.)

1. As of March 31 in each year 1968, 1970, 1972 and 1974 (a) how many were employed by the Fisheries Prices Support Board (b) what would have been their aggregate salaries if all were employed for a full year (c) how many had salary levels of (i) $20,000 or more (ii) $35,000 or more (iii) $50,000 or more?

2. What was the salary or the salary range for each of the five highest paid employees of the Board?