November 30, 1973

LIB

Donald Stovel Macdonald (Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. Macdonald (Rosedale):

Mr. Speaker, we have had conversations with more than one province, particularly with regard to federal sharing of the proceeds of the export tax. We indicated that on a joint venture basis we would be prepared to co-operate with the province's priorities in energy development. In that sense we have had discussion of this type.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF DEVELOPMENT OF FUTURE ENERGY UNDER PUBLIC OWNERSHIP
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MEASURES TO ENSURE DELIVERY TO EASTERN CANADIAN PORTS OF OIL NORMALLY MOVED THROUGH PORTLAND-MONTREAL PIPELINE

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Mr. Georges-C. Lachance@Lafontaine

Mr. Speaker, I should like to put a supplementary question to the Minister of Transport.

Can he tell me whether further arrangements have been made in our eastern ports to take delivery of the oil that some countries are unwilling to ship via Portland?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   MEASURES TO ENSURE DELIVERY TO EASTERN CANADIAN PORTS OF OIL NORMALLY MOVED THROUGH PORTLAND-MONTREAL PIPELINE
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LIB

Jean Marchand (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Hon. Jean Marchand (Minister of Transport):

Mr. Speaker, if we can get oil from a source other than the Portland pipeline, there is no doubt that we will be ready to take delivery of it.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   MEASURES TO ENSURE DELIVERY TO EASTERN CANADIAN PORTS OF OIL NORMALLY MOVED THROUGH PORTLAND-MONTREAL PIPELINE
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LIB

Georges-C. Lachance

Liberal

Mr. Lachance:

Mr. Speaker, I want to ask the minister whether winter navigation on the St. Lawrence up to Montreal will be included in those further arrangements?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   MEASURES TO ENSURE DELIVERY TO EASTERN CANADIAN PORTS OF OIL NORMALLY MOVED THROUGH PORTLAND-MONTREAL PIPELINE
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LIB

Jean Marchand (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Marchand (Langelier):

No, Mr. Speaker.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   MEASURES TO ENSURE DELIVERY TO EASTERN CANADIAN PORTS OF OIL NORMALLY MOVED THROUGH PORTLAND-MONTREAL PIPELINE
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INQUIRY AS TO POSSIBLE MEETING WITH NOVA SCOTIA PREMIER CONCERNING INCREASE IN PRICE OF FUEL OIL

PC

Robert Carman Coates

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Robert C. Coates (Colchester-Cumberland North):

Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the Prime Minister. Can the Prime Minister tell me whether he has had any communication with the premier of Nova Scotia regarding a meeting in relation to the increase in the price of fuel oil in Nova Scotia that will take effect tomorrow?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO POSSIBLE MEETING WITH NOVA SCOTIA PREMIER CONCERNING INCREASE IN PRICE OF FUEL OIL
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LIB

Pierre Elliott Trudeau (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Right Hon. P. E. Trudeau (Prime Minister):

No, Mr. Speaker.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO POSSIBLE MEETING WITH NOVA SCOTIA PREMIER CONCERNING INCREASE IN PRICE OF FUEL OIL
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PC

Robert Carman Coates

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Coates:

May I ask the Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources whether the premier has requested a meeting with him immediately regarding the increase in the price of fuel oil in Nova Scotia that will take effect tomorrow?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO POSSIBLE MEETING WITH NOVA SCOTIA PREMIER CONCERNING INCREASE IN PRICE OF FUEL OIL
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LIB

Donald Stovel Macdonald (Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Hon. Donald S. Macdonald (Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources):

Mr. Speaker, I would have to confirm

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that with my office. I am not aware of it but perhaps such a request has been made.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO POSSIBLE MEETING WITH NOVA SCOTIA PREMIER CONCERNING INCREASE IN PRICE OF FUEL OIL
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OIL-STATEMENTS BY MINISTER CONCERNING POSSIBLE WORLD SUPPLY SHORTFALL AND MEETING CANADIAN NEEDS

PC

Harvie Andre

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Harvie Andre (Calgary Centre):

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Prime Minister. The Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources has stated publicly that Canada, as a good international citizen, must share equally in any shortfall of world petroleum supplies. The minister has also stated that Canada's needs will be served first by Canadian crude oil, even if this means cutting off exports to countries that might be in short supply. Can the Prime Minister reconcile these conflicting statements and indicate to the House just what the government's policy is?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   OIL-STATEMENTS BY MINISTER CONCERNING POSSIBLE WORLD SUPPLY SHORTFALL AND MEETING CANADIAN NEEDS
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Some hon. Members:

Answer!

Topic:   ORAL QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   OIL-STATEMENTS BY MINISTER CONCERNING POSSIBLE WORLD SUPPLY SHORTFALL AND MEETING CANADIAN NEEDS
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Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

No affiliation

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. I am sure the hon. member realizes that to ask a minister to reconcile one statement with another is debate and that a question in those terms is not in order.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   OIL-STATEMENTS BY MINISTER CONCERNING POSSIBLE WORLD SUPPLY SHORTFALL AND MEETING CANADIAN NEEDS
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FEED GRAIN MARKETING POLICY-POSITION OF SASKATCHEWAN WHEAT POOL

PC

John George Diefenbaker

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. J. G. Diefenbaker (Prince Albert):

Mr. Speaker, my question has to do with the marketing of feed grains. Has the Minister of Justice been made aware of the fact that, despite his pilgrimage to western Canada to convince the farmers to the contrary, the Saskatchewan Wheat Pool has made it clear that it cannot accept the system now decided upon by the government for 1974 and 1975?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   FEED GRAIN MARKETING POLICY-POSITION OF SASKATCHEWAN WHEAT POOL
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LIB

Otto Emil Lang (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada; Minister responsible for the Canadian Wheat Board)

Liberal

Hon. Otto E. Lang (Minister of Justice):

Mr. Speaker, I have received a document from the Saskatchewan Wheat Pool that indicates some further conclusions by them on the feed grain issue. I was pleased to see that they accepted the basic principle of equitable pricing across Canada and other very important features in the plan. In that spirit of reasonable discussion for which they are well known they have put forward a possible alternative way of accomplishing that objective, and we will be discussing this alternative with them further in the days ahead.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   FEED GRAIN MARKETING POLICY-POSITION OF SASKATCHEWAN WHEAT POOL
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PC

John George Diefenbaker

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

Mr. Speaker, apparently the minister did not read what the Saskatchewan Wheat Pool said. He has picked out one item. Did not the Wheat Pool say that the Wheat Board must be retained as sole marketing agent, and is that not contrary to what the government wants to do? Second, did not the board of directors of the pool say that they want an equitable system of pricing and, in particular, an adequate level of floor price protection? In view of those facts, instead of quibbling with words is the minister now prepared to back from the position the government took which is not acceptable to the pools of western Canada?

November 30, 1973

Oral Questions

Topic:   ORAL QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   FEED GRAIN MARKETING POLICY-POSITION OF SASKATCHEWAN WHEAT POOL
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LIB

Otto Emil Lang (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada; Minister responsible for the Canadian Wheat Board)

Liberal

Mr. Lang:

Mr. Speaker, the Wheat Pool did focus on the very specific aspect of the Wheat Board remaining the selling agent for the rest of the country, and in effect proposed that the kind of system we adopted this year for formula pricing be continued for another year into the future, along with some of the other steps we have proposed. The right hon. gentleman's reference to floor prices is, of course, a direct reference to a part of what is in our policy in terms of minimum price guarantees. They also endorse the storage program which is a part of our policy. That is why I say there is certainly a distinct hope that we can in this further period discuss the advantages of our proposal, which would have left the board very much in control of the export market and most of the domestic-market but would have allowed a market pricing technique to operate, as against the advantages there are with a more artificial technique. I am certainly openminded on the question, as always.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   FEED GRAIN MARKETING POLICY-POSITION OF SASKATCHEWAN WHEAT POOL
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November 30, 1973