October 25, 1973

BROADCASTING

PETITION RESPECTING ADVERTISING ON CHILDREN'S PROGRAMS

PC

James Aloysius McGrath

Progressive Conservative

Mr. James A. McGrath (St. John's East):

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I hope, Sir, that as the custodian of our ancient rights and privileges in this House you will hear my point of order. It concerns yesterday's Votes and Proceedings which record your ruling on the petition presented by me under Standing Order 67. The rationale of that ruling was that the petition concerned a matter over which parliament by statute had delegated control to the Canadian Radio-Television Commission. Various precedents were cited in support. However, in determining whether this House has divested itself of control it is the appropriate statute to which one must refer. The precedents are an aid in the interpretation of the statute. Parliament never gave up control of the CRTC. Section 32 of the Broadcasting Act provides:

All expenditures for the purposes of this part-

That is the part that constitutes the CRTC and sets out its jurisdiction.

-shall be paid for out of moneys appropriated by parliament therefor.

I make this point of order in recognition of your ruling and the observation that the right of the people to petition "is a very ancient and historical right" which should not be-and here I quote Shakespeare-"cabined, cribbed or confined" in any way by precedents decided on particulars.

Topic:   BROADCASTING
Subtopic:   PETITION RESPECTING ADVERTISING ON CHILDREN'S PROGRAMS
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ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

NDP

Stanley Howard Knowles (N.D.P. House Leader)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order to indicate certain agreements that have been arrived at by all parties. Apparently I was trying to demonstrate the universality of agreement by rising to speak from a seat other than my own.

Today, Sir, is an opposition day, with the motion being moved today by the hon. member for Nanaimo-Cowichan-The Islands (Mr. Douglas). I think you will find there is agreement that the time limits on speeches today be as

follows: 30 minutes for the mover of the motion, as provided in the Standing Order; 30 minutes for the minister responding; and 20 minutes for the lead-off speaker of each of the other two parties; but 15 minutes for all other speakers today.

There is another matter on which we have reached agreement. Shall I deal with that while I am on my feet?

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

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Subtopic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
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NDP

Stanley Howard Knowles (N.D.P. House Leader)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker, the other matter on which we have reached agreement has to do with any division that may be called tomorrow related to the business that the President of the Privy Council (Mr. MacEachen) will be announcing. Perhaps we could deal with both these matters now.

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Subtopic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
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LIB

Allan Joseph MacEachen (President of the Privy Council; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Hon. Allan J. MacEachen (President of the Privy Council):

Mr. Speaker, on the point of order, I understand we have agreed that any division that might arise tomorrow on any items before the House will be dealt with later at a time to be agreed upon after discussions among the House leaders. Tomorrow we would begin with the CNR financing bill, then the Canada Pension Plan Bill No. 1, followed by the National Parks Act bill. On Monday we would begin with the Canada Pension Plan Bill No. 2 and probably follow that with the report stage of the foreign investment bill.

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Subtopic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
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PC

Walter David Baker (Deputy House Leader of the Official Opposition; Progressive Conservative Party Deputy House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Walter Baker (Grenville-Carleton):

Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the official opposition may I say that we concur in the arrangements that have been discussed and agreed upon in the usual way.

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Subtopic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
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NONE

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

No affiliation

Mr. Speaker:

Is this agreed and so ordered?

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Subtopic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

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Subtopic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
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NATIONAL DEFENCE

NDP

Frank Howard

New Democratic Party

Mr. Frank Howard (Skeena):

Mr. Speaker, I rise pursuant to Standing Order 43 on a question of urgent and pressing necessity to seek leave to move a motion. The question of urgent and pressing necessity concerns the intensified feelings on the part of residents of the Queen Charlotte Islands, in my riding, about the nature and purpose of visits there by Canadian Armed Forces personnel aboard military aircraft from the air force base at Comox. I would therefore like to move, seconded by the hon. member for Comox-Alberni (Mr. Barnett), the following motion:

October 25, 1973

National Defence

That there be presented to this House for referral to the Standing Committee on External Affairs and National Defence the information from all flight plans of aircraft operated by the Department of National Defence which departed from the Canadian Forces Base at Comox, B.C. and which landed at Sandspit, B.C. or at any other location on the Queen Charlotte Islands from August 1, 1973 to today except such information as may be classified as being of a security nature.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Sub-subtopic:   PURPOSE OF CERTAIN FLIGHTS TO QUEEN CHARLOTTE ISLANDS BY ARMED FORCES AIRCRAFT-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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NONE

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

No affiliation

Mr. Speaker:

Is there unanimous consent for the motion proposed by the hon. member for Skeena?

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Subtopic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Sub-subtopic:   PURPOSE OF CERTAIN FLIGHTS TO QUEEN CHARLOTTE ISLANDS BY ARMED FORCES AIRCRAFT-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

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Subtopic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Sub-subtopic:   PURPOSE OF CERTAIN FLIGHTS TO QUEEN CHARLOTTE ISLANDS BY ARMED FORCES AIRCRAFT-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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Some hon. Members:

No.

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Subtopic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
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NONE

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

No affiliation

Mr. Speaker:

There is not unanimity.

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Subtopic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Sub-subtopic:   PURPOSE OF CERTAIN FLIGHTS TO QUEEN CHARLOTTE ISLANDS BY ARMED FORCES AIRCRAFT-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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TRANSPORT

PC

Charles E. Haliburton

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Charles E. Haliburton (South Western Nova):

Mr. Speaker, I rise to ask the unanimous consent of the House, pursuant to Standing Order 43, to present a motion of urgent and pressing necessity. It relates to the curtailment of ferry service in the Bay of Fundy scheduled to become effective next Sunday. In view of the serious cutback, in view of the large investment the Canadian government has in the service which will thereby be wasted, and in view of the substantial loss of jobs and economic opportunities in southwestern Nova Scotia, I move, seconded by the hon. member for Halton (Mr. O'Connor):

First, that the Ministry of Transport be instructed by this House to underwrite all legitimate losses suffered by CPR after October 28 in relation to the operation of the Digby to Saint John ferry, Princess of Acadia, operating on a twice daily schedule.

Second, that the Ministry of Transport be instructed to enter into negotiations with CPR to either provide a subsidy which will ensure the continued operation of the ferry or alternatively to purchase the ferry and include it in the operations of the recently commenced, or announced, Atlantic ferry administration.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT
Sub-subtopic:   REDUCTION IN DIGBY-SAINT JOHN FERRY SERVICE- REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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October 25, 1973