September 11, 1973

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS


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TRANSPORT

PC

Otto John Jelinek

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Otto Jelinek (High Park-Humber Valley):

Mr. Speaker, in view of the continuing increase in automobile fatalities and injuries in Canada and the fact that through the introduction of legislation in other countries making the use of seat belts compulsory these same countries have experienced a 20 per cent reduction in automobile fatalities, I would move, under the provisions of Standing Order 43, seconded by the hon. member for Hamilton Mountain (Mr. Beattie):

That the government implement forthwith legislation compelling the use of seat belts by both driver and passengers in private automobiles.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT
Sub-subtopic:   SUGGESTED LEGISLATION TO COMPEL USE OF AUTOMOBILE SEAT BELTS-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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NONE

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

No affiliation

Mr. Speaker:

The Chair will inquire whether there is unanimous consent.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT
Sub-subtopic:   SUGGESTED LEGISLATION TO COMPEL USE OF AUTOMOBILE SEAT BELTS-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT
Sub-subtopic:   SUGGESTED LEGISLATION TO COMPEL USE OF AUTOMOBILE SEAT BELTS-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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Some hon. Members:

No.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT
Sub-subtopic:   SUGGESTED LEGISLATION TO COMPEL USE OF AUTOMOBILE SEAT BELTS-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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NONE

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

No affiliation

Mr. Speaker:

There is not unanimous consent.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT
Sub-subtopic:   SUGGESTED LEGISLATION TO COMPEL USE OF AUTOMOBILE SEAT BELTS-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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AIR TRANSPORT

LIB

Jean Marchand (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Hon. Jean Marchand (Minister of Transport):

Mr. Speaker, due to the deep interest shown in Canadian-American negotiations for the establishment of new airline routes and privileges of customs preclearance, under Standing Order 41(2), I have the honour to table two copies in French and English of the public statement that I will make this afternoon.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   AIR TRANSPORT
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING BY MINISTER OF STATEMENT ON NEW AIR ROUTES TO UNITED STATES AND CUSTOMS PRECLEARANCE
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PC

Donald Frank Mazankowski

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Mazankowski:

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, I draw your attention to the fact that I believe the minister, in doing what he has just done, has in my opinion seriously breached the traditional practice of the House. This statement is of great magnitude from the standpoint of

both the economic policy of this country and, indeed, the future of transportation, and it is customary for documents of this nature to be presented in advance to the opposition parties so that opposition spokesmen can respond adequately. In my opinion, what the minister has now done is a deliberate affront to parliament and the people of Canada and I do not think his action should be condoned.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   AIR TRANSPORT
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING BY MINISTER OF STATEMENT ON NEW AIR ROUTES TO UNITED STATES AND CUSTOMS PRECLEARANCE
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Some hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   AIR TRANSPORT
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING BY MINISTER OF STATEMENT ON NEW AIR ROUTES TO UNITED STATES AND CUSTOMS PRECLEARANCE
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PC

Donald Frank Mazankowski

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Mazankowski:

I understand that the minister has called a press conference for this afternoon. I believe that the only reason for his doing so is to maximize the political benefit from his statement as much as possible.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   AIR TRANSPORT
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING BY MINISTER OF STATEMENT ON NEW AIR ROUTES TO UNITED STATES AND CUSTOMS PRECLEARANCE
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Some hon. Members:

Shame!

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   AIR TRANSPORT
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING BY MINISTER OF STATEMENT ON NEW AIR ROUTES TO UNITED STATES AND CUSTOMS PRECLEARANCE
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PC

Donald Frank Mazankowski

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Mazankowski:

Although this policy may be consistent with the practices of the government- I could cite many examples-and consistent with the practices of this minister who has denied the Standing Committee on Transport and Communications the right to examine the Canadian National and Air Canada reports, I do not believe any member of this House has any excuse for allowing this to take place.

I do not want this point to go unnoticed. I believe that the minister's action has created a situation which is not conducive to the traditions of the House nor to its orderly functioning. I would humbly submit to the minister through you, Mr. Speaker, that he request the House to revert to motions some time later this day so that spokesmen for the opposition parties can have an opportunity to comment on the matter.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   AIR TRANSPORT
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING BY MINISTER OF STATEMENT ON NEW AIR ROUTES TO UNITED STATES AND CUSTOMS PRECLEARANCE
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NDP

Stanley Howard Knowles (N.D.P. House Leader)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker, in a few brief words I should like to support the point of order raised by the hon. member for Vegreville (Mr. Mazankowski). As Your Honour is aware, this is a point that has been raised a number of times. On most occasions Your Honour has found our objections not valid. On most occasions you have found that the kind of document that a minister was seeking to table under Standing Order 41(2) was proper under the terms of the order itself, but on at least one occasion, when our friend of former days, the Hon. E. J. Benson, sought to table what was in effect a press release, Your Honour found otherwise. I therefore wonder-I can only wonder because I have not seen the document; perhaps Your Honour has-whether this one does not come within the category of a press release rather than a report or a government paper. In that respect I wonder whether it would not be better, since we are still on motions, for the minister to read the statement to us and then hand it to the press conference at three o'clock.

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Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   AIR TRANSPORT
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING BY MINISTER OF STATEMENT ON NEW AIR ROUTES TO UNITED STATES AND CUSTOMS PRECLEARANCE
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LIB

Jean Marchand (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Marchand (Langelier):

Mr. Speaker, I would like to comment quite briefly on that point or order. In my opinion, the hon. member has raised a point of order which .also seems difficult to me.

There is no formal agreement between . . .

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   AIR TRANSPORT
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING BY MINISTER OF STATEMENT ON NEW AIR ROUTES TO UNITED STATES AND CUSTOMS PRECLEARANCE
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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh!

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   AIR TRANSPORT
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING BY MINISTER OF STATEMENT ON NEW AIR ROUTES TO UNITED STATES AND CUSTOMS PRECLEARANCE
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LIB

Jean Marchand (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Marchand (Langelier):

Mr. Speaker, I listened to the hon. member a while ago; he can extend the same courtesy to me and after having heard my remarks, he may get angry if he wants to. In any event, I merely say that there is no formal agreement, but only a report drawn up by the head of the Canadian delegation in Washington. The two parties have formally agreed to keep quiet until today but that an announcement would be made in Washington and in Ottawa.

I merely wanted, with all due respect for this House, to table the report in the House before meeting the press.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   AIR TRANSPORT
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING BY MINISTER OF STATEMENT ON NEW AIR ROUTES TO UNITED STATES AND CUSTOMS PRECLEARANCE
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PC

Gerald William Baldwin (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Baldwin:

Mr. Speaker, it is so seldom this government has anything of substance to lay before the House that we think they should do it in the proper form.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   AIR TRANSPORT
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING BY MINISTER OF STATEMENT ON NEW AIR ROUTES TO UNITED STATES AND CUSTOMS PRECLEARANCE
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September 11, 1973