April 17, 1973

PC

Gerald William Baldwin (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Baldwin:

You have not been doing too well so far.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADA-UNITED STATES AUTO PACT-REQUEST FOR REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE
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Mr. Terry@

I have a supplementary question, Mr. Speaker. In view of the tremendous importance and the significant value to this country of the auto pact, would the minister consider or agree to the referral mentioned by the Leader of the Opposition provided that consideration were in camera before the Standing Committee on Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs?

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Subtopic:   CANADA-UNITED STATES AUTO PACT-REQUEST FOR REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE
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LIB

Alastair William Gillespie (Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Gillespie:

Mr. Speaker, I would expect that there would be other opportunities to discuss the operation of the auto pact when my main estimates are called again. I believe that I will be meeting with the committee early in May and of course it will be the committee's decision whether they want to raise this matter with me at that time.

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Subtopic:   CANADA-UNITED STATES AUTO PACT-REQUEST FOR REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE
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CANADA-UNITED STATES AUTO PACT-CANADIAN PROPOSALS

NDP

John Edward Broadbent (N.D.P. Caucus Chair)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Edward Broadbent (Oshawa-Whitby):

I have a supplementary question, Mr. Speaker. Putting aside the question of general benefit to Canada that the government may or may not be trying to obtain in negotiations, I should like to ask the minister specifically whether the government of Canada has proposed the removal of the 15 per cent duty requirement that consumers must pay if they bring a car in from the United States? If it has made that specific proposal, has it attached to that the requirement that the production level safeguards in the pact must be maintained?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADA-UNITED STATES AUTO PACT-CANADIAN PROPOSALS
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LIB

Alastair William Gillespie (Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Hon. Alastair Gillespie (Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce):

Mr. Speaker, I am, perhaps, repeating myself when I say that these were exploratory talks.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADA-UNITED STATES AUTO PACT-CANADIAN PROPOSALS
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NDP

John Edward Broadbent (N.D.P. Caucus Chair)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Broadbent:

Answer the question.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADA-UNITED STATES AUTO PACT-CANADIAN PROPOSALS
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LIB

Alastair William Gillespie (Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Gillespie:

It would be overstating it to say that that proposal had been made, but I can assure the hon. member that if there are any changes agreed to, as I have already indicated on past occasions, they will only be agreed to if there is a mechanism to protect existing and future Canadian jobs based on article 1 of the agreement itself.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADA-UNITED STATES AUTO PACT-CANADIAN PROPOSALS
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CANADA-UNITED STATES AUTO PACT-REPRESENTATIONS TO AMERICAN SENATORS THROUGH CANADIAN EMBASSY

NDP

John Edward Broadbent (N.D.P. Caucus Chair)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Edward Broadbent (Oshawa-Whitby):

I have a supplementary question, Mr. Speaker. In view of the fact

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that in the American constitution there is a radical separation of powers between the presidential wing and the congressional wing, and the threat at present seems to come, according to news reports, from the U.S. Senate, can the minister inform the House whether or not the Canadian Embassy in Washington has been instructed to keep in close liaison with the key American senators on the important finance committee to make sure that they know the Canadian position?

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Subtopic:   CANADA-UNITED STATES AUTO PACT-REPRESENTATIONS TO AMERICAN SENATORS THROUGH CANADIAN EMBASSY
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LIB

Alastair William Gillespie (Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Hon. Alastair Gillespie (Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce):

Mr. Speaker, as I have also indicated on other occasions, there are various channels by which Canadian views are made known to key figures in Washington, and undoubtedly Canadian views have been made known to legislators by Canadian officials. I cannot, nor am I going to, indicate whether Canadian officials at the embassy specifically have made these views known, but I can say that Canadian officials have made our views known to a variety of important figures on the Hill.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADA-UNITED STATES AUTO PACT-REPRESENTATIONS TO AMERICAN SENATORS THROUGH CANADIAN EMBASSY
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NONE

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

No affiliation

Mr. Speaker:

Does the hon. member for Richmond wish to put a supplementary question?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   CANADA-UNITED STATES AUTO PACT-REPRESENTATIONS TO AMERICAN SENATORS THROUGH CANADIAN EMBASSY
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SC

Léonel Beaudoin

Social Credit

Mr. Beaudoin:

No, Mr. Speaker.

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Subtopic:   CANADA-UNITED STATES AUTO PACT-REPRESENTATIONS TO AMERICAN SENATORS THROUGH CANADIAN EMBASSY
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NONE

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

No affiliation

Mr. Speaker:

I shall recognize the hon. member shortly. [English]

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Subtopic:   CANADA-UNITED STATES AUTO PACT-REPRESENTATIONS TO AMERICAN SENATORS THROUGH CANADIAN EMBASSY
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USE OF UNITED STATES DISC PROGRAM BY CANADIAN CAR MANUFACTURERS

PC

Alfred Dryden Hales

Progressive Conservative

Mr. A. D. Hales (Wellington):

Mr. Speaker, may I direct a supplementary question to the Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce. Can he inform the House if Canadian car manufacturers are taking advantage of the United States DISC program and, in view of the fact that they have the privilege of free trade, has the government, through the minister, lodged an objection?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   USE OF UNITED STATES DISC PROGRAM BY CANADIAN CAR MANUFACTURERS
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LIB

Alastair William Gillespie (Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Hon. Alastair Gillespie (Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce):

Speaking to the last question first, we have on earlier occasions made our views known on DISC. My predecessor, I think, very clearly stated our opposition to this particular proposal. As to the first part of the question, if the automobile companies themselves have taken advantage of DISC, it is my information that they have applied and been granted DISC status. Whether they have in fact taken advantage in any unfair way is not a question that I can answer at this time.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   USE OF UNITED STATES DISC PROGRAM BY CANADIAN CAR MANUFACTURERS
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EXTERNAL AFFAIRS

NDP

Francis Andrew Brewin

New Democratic Party

Mr. Andrew Brewin (Greenwood):

Mr. Speaker, my question is addressed to the Secretary of State for External Affairs. In view of the resumption of bombing raids by the United States Air Force in Laos, and in light of the

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clear provision in article 20 of the cease-fire agreement to which the United States is a party that foreign countries shall put an end to all military activities in Cambodia and Laos and totally withdraw from and refrain from reintroducing into these two countries troops, materiel, etc. what representations has the Canadian government made or will it make to the parties in question and the United States in particular in respect of this continuance of hostilities?

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Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   MILITARY ACTIVITIES IN CAMBODIA AND LAOS- REPRESENTATIONS TO UNITED STATES AND OTHER PARTIES-CONTINUANCE OF CANADIAN PARTICIPATION ON CONTROL COMMISSION
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LIB

Mitchell William Sharp (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Hon. Mitchell Sharp (Secretary of State for External Affairs):

Mr. Speaker, in so far as Canada is a member of the International Control Commission, that particular article quoted by the hon. member does not fall within its competence. In general, I think it is pretty well known that there have been many violations of the peace agreement not only by the United States but by others.

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Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   MILITARY ACTIVITIES IN CAMBODIA AND LAOS- REPRESENTATIONS TO UNITED STATES AND OTHER PARTIES-CONTINUANCE OF CANADIAN PARTICIPATION ON CONTROL COMMISSION
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April 17, 1973