January 26, 1973

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

INDUSTRY

NONE

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

No affiliation

Mr. Speaker:

I believe the hon. member for Oshawa-Whitby is seeking the consent of the House to return to motions for the purpose of proposing a motion. Is this agreed?

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   INDUSTRY
Sub-subtopic:   AUTOMOBILES-PRICE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN CANADA AND UNITED STATES-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   INDUSTRY
Sub-subtopic:   AUTOMOBILES-PRICE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN CANADA AND UNITED STATES-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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NDP

John Edward Broadbent (N.D.P. Caucus Chair)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Edward Broadbent (Oshawa-Whitby):

Thank you for your courtesy, Mr. Speaker. I rise to move a motion under Standing Order 43. The motion arises out of the revelation in an article in the Financial Post of tomorrow's date in which the president of General Motors of Canada asserts that the Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce made no serious effort to get his company to bring down the prices of their automobiles.

The Minister of Finance, Mr. Speaker, specifically asserted that this year's 7 per cent reduction in corporation tax had better be reflected in lower prices for automobiles. However, the president of General Motors had anticipated that the Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce would appropriately threaten the withdrawal of the tax reduction from the automotive industry, having said, "Hell, that's where the strength was."

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   INDUSTRY
Sub-subtopic:   AUTOMOBILES-PRICE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN CANADA AND UNITED STATES-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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NONE

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

No affiliation

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. I must interrupt the hon. member. He knows what the rule is. He should indicate what the motion is that he proposes to present to the House.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   INDUSTRY
Sub-subtopic:   AUTOMOBILES-PRICE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN CANADA AND UNITED STATES-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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NDP

John Edward Broadbent (N.D.P. Caucus Chair)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Broadbent:

Mr. Speaker, I will move to the motion. If I may finish the quotation, the president of the company went on to say, "I kept waiting for Mr. Gillespie to bring up tax cuts on the phone, but he never mentioned them." Therefore, in view of the continuing unjustified price differential between North American cars sold in Canada and the United States, I move, seconded, by the hon. member for Nickel Belt (Mr. Rodriguez):

That this subject be referred to the Standing Committee on Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   INDUSTRY
Sub-subtopic:   AUTOMOBILES-PRICE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN CANADA AND UNITED STATES-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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NONE

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

No affiliation

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. Before putting the hon. member's motion to the House I must again bring to the attention of hon. members my qualms and doubts as to the propriety of including accusations or charges in

motions brought under Standing Order 43. Hon. members know that this Standing Order, as we have interpreted it in recent years, does not make it possible for other members whose conduct may be impugned in the statement made in proposing a motion under Standing Order 43 to be given an opportunity for reply. I would think the kind of statement included in the hon. member's proposed motion is a debate and I very much doubt that it is in order. Normally I would hesitate to accept the motion, but to save time and to avoid becoming involved in a long point of order I will ask whether there is unanimous consent.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   INDUSTRY
Sub-subtopic:   AUTOMOBILES-PRICE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN CANADA AND UNITED STATES-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   INDUSTRY
Sub-subtopic:   AUTOMOBILES-PRICE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN CANADA AND UNITED STATES-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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Some hon. Members:

No.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   INDUSTRY
Sub-subtopic:   AUTOMOBILES-PRICE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN CANADA AND UNITED STATES-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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NONE

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

No affiliation

Mr. Speaker:

The motion cannot be put.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   INDUSTRY
Sub-subtopic:   AUTOMOBILES-PRICE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN CANADA AND UNITED STATES-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION
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ORAL QUESTION PERIOD

THE CANADIAN ECONOMY

PC

Robert Lorne Stanfield (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Robert L. Stanfield (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to ask the Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs a question in light of the increase of 11 per cent in the wholesale price index in the past 12 months. May I ask the minister whether the government has made any projection as to the effect of an increase in wholesale prices of this magnitude upon the cost of living index and whether, in light of any such projection, the government is taking any special measures to mitigate the effect of this increase in wholesale prices on the cost of living other than establishing a committee of the House to study food prices?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   THE CANADIAN ECONOMY
Sub-subtopic:   INCREASE IN WHOLESALE PRICE INDEX-EFFECT ON COST OF LIVING-MEASURES TO MITIGATE
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LIB

Herbert Eser (Herb) Gray (Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs)

Liberal

Hon. Herb Gray (Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs):

Mr. Speaker, the government is following the situation very closely. With respect to questions like this dealing with general trends in the economy, perhaps the Minister of Finance would be the more appropriate minister to whom to direct such questions.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   THE CANADIAN ECONOMY
Sub-subtopic:   INCREASE IN WHOLESALE PRICE INDEX-EFFECT ON COST OF LIVING-MEASURES TO MITIGATE
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PC

Robert Lorne Stanfield (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Stanfield:

Mr. Speaker, I apologize to the Minister of Finance for putting him on the spot at the request of his colleague. Can he tell us whether the government has made any projection of the effect of the 11 per cent increase in wholesale prices upon the cost of living index in the country and whether, in light of any such projection, which I assume it is the responsibility of the govern-

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ment to make, the government is taking any measures to mitigate the consequential increase in the cost of living other than the establishment of a committee of the House on food prices.

Hon. John N. Turner (Minister of Finance) Mr. Speaker, I will be able to go into that problem in more detail on an appropriate occasion. I have studied these wholesale price rises and also the industrial price index. One has accelerated a bit and the other has decelerated. They are still at higher levels than I would like to see and may well work their way through the retail index. I might say to the hon. gentleman that in the United States the wholesale price index of food rose at an annual rate of 14 per cent despite a price and wage control imposition during the period. This is a problem that needs solution in a number of ways, but I would not want to invite any suggestion in the House that I have in any way changed my mind either as to the inevitability or the appropriateness of price and wage controls to meet that situation.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   THE CANADIAN ECONOMY
Sub-subtopic:   INCREASE IN WHOLESALE PRICE INDEX-EFFECT ON COST OF LIVING-MEASURES TO MITIGATE
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PC

Robert Lorne Stanfield (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Stanfield:

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate what the minister said about the United States but we have to accept our own responsibilities. I was not asking about food prices. However, since food prices have been mentioned I would ask the Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs whether, in view of the 5.1 per cent increase in the wholesale food index last month, the government has met or is meeting with representatives of the food industry in order to devise methods that might be implemented immediately to reduce the impact of this increase upon the retail prices of food, or is the minister simply going to leave this to the committee?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   THE CANADIAN ECONOMY
Sub-subtopic:   INCREASE IN WHOLESALE PRICE INDEX-EFFECT ON COST OF LIVING-MEASURES TO MITIGATE
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LIB

Herbert Eser (Herb) Gray (Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. Gray:

I have not as yet contemplated the holding of such meetings. The Prime Minister has already pointed out the work on contingency planning which the government has been undertaking with respect to controls. Hopefully, the committee will begin meetings soon, and this subject can be gone into in depth in that forum.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   THE CANADIAN ECONOMY
Sub-subtopic:   INCREASE IN WHOLESALE PRICE INDEX-EFFECT ON COST OF LIVING-MEASURES TO MITIGATE
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PC

Robert Lorne Stanfield (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Stanfield:

In view of the extraordinarily complacent attitude of the two ministers toward this problem-

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   THE CANADIAN ECONOMY
Sub-subtopic:   INCREASE IN WHOLESALE PRICE INDEX-EFFECT ON COST OF LIVING-MEASURES TO MITIGATE
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NONE

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

No affiliation

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. The Leader of the Opposition has the floor, of course, for the purpose of asking a question.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   THE CANADIAN ECONOMY
Sub-subtopic:   INCREASE IN WHOLESALE PRICE INDEX-EFFECT ON COST OF LIVING-MEASURES TO MITIGATE
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January 26, 1973