January 4, 1973

OFFICIAL REPORT


FIRST SESSION-TWENTY-NINTH PARLIAMENT 21 Elizabeth II


VOLUME I, 1973 COMPRISING THE PERIOD FROM THE FOURTH DAY OF JANUARY, 1973, TO THE NINTH DAY OF FEBRUARY, 1973, INCLUSIVE INDEX ISSUED IN A SEPARATE VOLUME


Published under the authority of the Speaker of the House of Commons by the Queen's Printer for Canada Available from Information Canada, Ottawa, Canada



Thursday. January 4, 1973


FIRST SESSION-TWENTY-NINTH PARLIAMENT


The twenty-eighth parliament having been prorogued and dissolved by proclamation on the first day of September, 1972, and writs having been issued and returned, a new parliament was summoned to meet for the dispatch of business on Thursday, January 4, 1973, and did accordingly meet on that day. Thursday, January 4, 1973 This being the day upon which parliament is convoked by proclamation of His Excellency the Governor General for the dispatch of business, and the members of the House being assembled: Alistair Fraser. Esquire, the Clerk of the House, read to the House a letter from the administrative secretary to the Governor General informing him that the Right Honourable Gerald Fauteux, Chief Justice of Canada, in his capacity as Deputy Governor General, would proceed to the Senate chamber to open the first session of the twenty-ninth parliament of Canada on Thursday, the fourth day of January, at ten thirty o'clock. A message was delivered by Major A. G. Vandelac gentleman Usher of the Black Rod, as follows: Members of the House of Commons: It is the desire of the Honourable the Deputy of His Excellency the Governor General that this honourable House attend him immediately in the chamber of the honourable the Senate. Accordingly, the House went up to the Senate chamber, when the Speaker of the Senate said: Honourable Members of the Senate, and Members of the House of Commons: I have it in command to let you know that His Excellency the Governor General does not see fit to declare the causes of his summoning the present parliament of Canada until the Speaker of the House of Commons shall have been chosen according to law, but this afternoon, at the hour of three o'clock, His Excellency will declare the cause of calling this parliament. And the House being returned to the Commons chamber:


ELECTION OF SPEAKER

LIB

Pierre Elliott Trudeau (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Right Hon. P. E. Trudeau (Prime Minister):

Mr. Fraser, no more important task will be undertaken by hon. members throughout the life of this parliament than that which is now before us. The wise choice of a wise Speaker will be reflected in every activity of this institution in the days and weeks-assuming there are weeks-ahead.

The Speaker of the House of Commons is the only one of our number who can claim our attention as of right.

That the nominee for this position can claim as well our respect in his own right is an indication of the high standard with which he discharged his onerous functions in previous parliaments. It also reveals the personal warmth and affection which he has generated as an understanding member of this very human place.

The hon. member for Stormont-Dundas, the Hon. Lucien Lamoureux, has been regarded for several years both by those who have sat before him and those who have observed him from the several galleries, or have met him at the head of our parliamentary delegations abroad as embodying all the necessary qualities of an outstanding Speaker: an encyclopedic knowledge of practise and precedent, a mastery of our official languages, the skills of a parliamentarian and a chairman. Because he embodies as well those other, desirable qualities of a sense of humour, an understanding of human nature, and the dignity so becoming to one in that office, he has long since proved that he is a great Speaker, in the view of many the greatest since Confederation. It is our immense good fortune to serve in a House over which he will preside. [English]

The career of Mr. Lamoureux has been one of service to the public. His association with parliament was a distinguished one even before he became Speaker of the House of Commons. He was first elected in 1962 and has been re-elected in each succeeding election: in 1963, 1965, 1968 and 1972. He was Deputy Speaker and Chairman of Committees of the Whole in the 26th parliament before serving as Speaker of this chamber in each of the 27th and 28th parliaments. The independence which he properly displays within this House has extended outside as well. In each of 1968 and 1972 Mr. Lamoureux chose to stand for re-election as an independent candidate, a decision that I welcomed and respected.

The proper and effective conduct of the business of this House, especially in a period when the flexibility of the parliamentary system will be tested and, I sincerely hope, demonstrated, will depend on a number of factors. Of them all, the one in which none of us have the slightest doubt is the impartiality and wise experience of the man I am proposing to this House for election as Speaker. [Translation]

I take great pleasure in moving, seconded by the hon. the Leader of the Opposition, that the Hon. Lucien Lamoureux, member for the electoral district of Stormont-Dundas, do take the Chair of this House as Speaker.

Topic:   OFFICIAL REPORT
Subtopic:   ELECTION OF SPEAKER
Sub-subtopic:   MR. LUCIEN LAMOUREUX, MEMBER FOR THE ELECTORAL DISTRICT OF STORMONT-DUNDAS
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PC

Robert Lorne Stanfield (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Robert L. Stanfield (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Fraser, everybody seems happy today. This is the second

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Election of Speaker

time I have had the privilege of seconding the nomination of the hon. member for Stormont-Dundas to the high office of Speaker. I said in 1968 that the choice was a happy one, and I repeat that the choice of the hon. member for Stormont-Dundas to be Speaker of the House of Commons is a very happy choice.

As the Prime Minister has reminded us, I think it was seven years ago less two weeks, on January 18, 1966, that the hon. member was first elected as Speaker after serving for three years as Deputy Speaker. The Leader of the Opposition at that time, my distinguished colleague, the hon. member for Prince Albert (Mr. Diefenbakerj, noted that as Deputy Speaker Mr. Lamoureux, had "discharged his responsibilities with tact, with wisdom, with humour, and above all with a sense of impartiality to which l am very happy to pay my tribute." Those words of the right hon. member for Prince Albert were true then and they certainly remain true today. Throughout long and sometimes difficult sessions the hon. member for Stormont-Dundas has displayed in the Chair qualities that we have all grown to respect and admire.

The duties of the Speaker of this House are difficult and essential. He must be an impartial referee of the debates in this House. He is also the protector of the rights and privileges of hon. members and more so of parliament itself. For all these reasons, the Speaker of the House has to be a dedicated man, a man respectful of parliamentary traditions, a man devoted to freedom.

I would not want this occasion to pass without reiterating my very strong feeling that this House needs and deserves a permanent Speaker. I have urged this before and 1 shall certainly be doing so again. It is my profound conviction that Mr. Lamoureux will exercise his judgment and his independence of mind just as he has in the past during the very interesting conditions which we will be facing here, particularly during the next few weeks. So, Sir, it is a great pleasure and honour to second the nomination by the right hon. Prime Minister.

Topic:   OFFICIAL REPORT
Subtopic:   ELECTION OF SPEAKER
Sub-subtopic:   MR. LUCIEN LAMOUREUX, MEMBER FOR THE ELECTORAL DISTRICT OF STORMONT-DUNDAS
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NDP

David Lewis

New Democratic Party

Mr. David Lewis (York South):

Mr. Fraser, on behalf of all my colleagues and myself, it is a real pleasure for me to second the nomination of Mr. Lucien Lamoureux as Speaker of the House.

Mr. Fraser, every time I hear praises sung for a person who is still with us I sympathize with him in the discomfort which he must feel. I merely want to say that all of us in the New Democratic Party have learned not only to admire and respect the way in which Mr. Lamoureux has presided over this chamber but have learned to have a very deep affection for him and for his very charming wife, particularly for the way both of them have lent dignity, humour and decency not only to events in this chamber but also in their functions as heads of the House of Commons outside the chamber.

It seems to me, Mr. Fraser, that Mr. Lamoureux can approach his job in this parliament with an ease of mind. This parliament is bound to be well behaved. There will

(Mr. Stanfield.]

not be any wrangling. There will not be any attempt to play politics.

Topic:   OFFICIAL REPORT
Subtopic:   ELECTION OF SPEAKER
Sub-subtopic:   MR. LUCIEN LAMOUREUX, MEMBER FOR THE ELECTORAL DISTRICT OF STORMONT-DUNDAS
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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh!

Topic:   OFFICIAL REPORT
Subtopic:   ELECTION OF SPEAKER
Sub-subtopic:   MR. LUCIEN LAMOUREUX, MEMBER FOR THE ELECTORAL DISTRICT OF STORMONT-DUNDAS
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NDP

David Lewis

New Democratic Party

Mr. Lewis:

Every member of the House will see to it that the functions of this parliament are carried on with an ease that will make the life of the Speaker even more pleasant, I hope, than it was during the last two parliaments. We welcome the nomination, and, with pleasure and deep admiration look forward to the presidence of Mr. Lamoureux over this chamber.

Topic:   OFFICIAL REPORT
Subtopic:   ELECTION OF SPEAKER
Sub-subtopic:   MR. LUCIEN LAMOUREUX, MEMBER FOR THE ELECTORAL DISTRICT OF STORMONT-DUNDAS
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SC

David Réal Caouette

Social Credit

Mr. Real Caouette (Temiscamingue):

Mr. Fraser, my colleagues and myself take great pleasure in joining the right hon. Prime Minister (Mr. Trudeau), the Leader of the Official Opposition (Mr. Stanfield) as well as the leader of the New Democratic Party (Mr. Lewis), to approve the suggestion that the Hon. Lucien Lamoureux be re-elected as Speaker of this House.

You will notice, Mr. Fraser, that since the last session we have moved in this House. Indeed, we are getting closer and closer to the power.

Of course, it is primarily important that our Speaker be very qualfied, and we all know that the Hon. Lucien Lamoureux has always been so. Without reducing in any way the value of previous Speakers I knew in this House, that is about six of them at least, I believe that the hon. Lucien Lamoureux is probably the most qualified one to reach agreements and listen to the claims of hon. members of any party.

If it is advisable to recall a minister to order, the Speaker does not hesitate to do so and this with great impartiality. The Speaker's job is not easy: he must try to do justice to all hon. members but Mr. Lamoureux has always managed to do so with remarkable tact. Of course there were controversies because we are all humans, not angles, no more so than the Speaker himself. Yet agreement and understanding are always possible and I think that the Speaker in the House, resorting to humour or a little rigidity depending upon the moment's needs, has rendered wonderful services to the House, this Canadian democratic institution which enables hon. members to express their electors' will.

Mr. Fraser, we are very pleased to second the right hon. Prime Minister's proposal that the Hon. Lucien Lamoureux be again appointed Speaker of the House of Commons.

The Clerk of the House declared the motion carried in the affirmative, nemine contradicente, and Lucien Lamoureux, Esquire, member for the electoral district of Stormont-Dundas, duly elected to the Chair of the House.

Mr. Lamoureux was conducted from his seat in the House to the Speaker's chair by Right Hon. P. E. Trudeau and Hon. Robert L. Stanfield.

Topic:   OFFICIAL REPORT
Subtopic:   ELECTION OF SPEAKER
Sub-subtopic:   MR. LUCIEN LAMOUREUX, MEMBER FOR THE ELECTORAL DISTRICT OF STORMONT-DUNDAS
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NONE

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

No affiliation

Mr. Speaker:

Hon. members, I beg to return my humble acknowledgements to the House for the great honour you

January 4, 1973

have been pleased to confer on me by choosing me to be your Speaker.

Humbly and very sincerely, may I thank the right hon. the Prime Minister (Mr. Trudeau), the hon. Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition (Mr. Stanfield), the hon. member for York South (Mr. Lewis), and the hon. member for Temiscamingue (Mr. Caouette) for their all too kind words. I am grateful also to the members of the House for their generosity in supporting the motion for my appointment to the high office of Speaker of this House.

Even in the best of circumstances the role of Speaker, though rewarding, of course, can also be very challenging. Most will agree that, from the Speaker's standpoint at least, the present situation can hardly be described as the best of circumstances. More than ever, therefore, the Speaker and those who share with him the responsibility of the office will have to rely upon the good will and co-operation of hon. members. Indeed, the work of the House will proceed with order and reasonable dispatch to the extent only that members endorse the rules of procedure and accept the usages, practices, customs and traditions of parliament as interpreted by the presiding officers elected for this very purpose by the House itself.

To deserve that co-operation from the members, the Speaker must certainly discharge his responsibilities, upholding parliamentary tradition with strict fair-mindedness. The members cannot expect less from those to whom they entrust the conduct of our proceedings. I hope that under all circumstances, it will be possible for me to justify the confidence or my colleagues. At all times, they may rely on my good faith and good will.

I again thank the House for the great honour bestowed upon me. It is an honour which I share not only with my wife and my family, but with all my constituents of Stor-mont-Dundas which I proudly represent in this parliament.

Again, with humility, I thank hon. members and wish them well in the dispatch of their reponsibilities in the House and in their endeavours on behalf of their constituents and the people of Canada.

Topic:   OFFICIAL REPORT
Subtopic:   ELECTION OF SPEAKER
Sub-subtopic:   MR. LUCIEN LAMOUREUX, MEMBER FOR THE ELECTORAL DISTRICT OF STORMONT-DUNDAS
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Some hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

Topic:   OFFICIAL REPORT
Subtopic:   ELECTION OF SPEAKER
Sub-subtopic:   MR. LUCIEN LAMOUREUX, MEMBER FOR THE ELECTORAL DISTRICT OF STORMONT-DUNDAS
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SITTING SUSPENDED

LIB

Pierre Elliott Trudeau (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Right Hon. P. E. Trudeau (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, I suggest that this sitting be suspended until three o'clock this afternoon.

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Subtopic:   SITTING SUSPENDED
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NONE

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

No affiliation

Mr. Speaker:

The House has heard the suggestion made by the right hon. the Prime Minister. Is it agreed?

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Subtopic:   SITTING SUSPENDED
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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

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Subtopic:   SITTING SUSPENDED
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January 4, 1973