September 1, 1972

UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE

RECOVERY OF OVERPAYMENTS OF BENEFITS-REQUEST FOR DELAY

SC

Léonel Beaudoin

Social Credit

Mr. Leonel Beaudoin (Richmond):

Mr. Speaker, with your permission I would like to ask a question of the Minister of Manpower and Immigration.

Several persons who were in receipt of unemployment insurance benefits will receive shortly or have received letters informing them that they have been overpaid. They are being asked to reimburse the money immediately. These people have been using the money to live on during the winter and are not in a position to reimburse it. Is it the intention of the minister to take the necessary measures in order to delay reimbursements by these people until they have resumed work?

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE
Subtopic:   RECOVERY OF OVERPAYMENTS OF BENEFITS-REQUEST FOR DELAY
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LIB

Bryce Stuart Mackasey (Minister of Manpower and Immigration)

Liberal

Hon. Bryce Mackasey (Minister of Manpower and Immigration):

Yes, Mr. Speaker. In respect of those people who receive overpayments as a result of their inaccurate statements of income which eventually become known to the Unemployment Insurance Commission, every effort is made to see that reimbursement is achieved in as easy a fashion as possible when they return to work.

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE
Subtopic:   RECOVERY OF OVERPAYMENTS OF BENEFITS-REQUEST FOR DELAY
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SC

Léonel Beaudoin

Social Credit

Mr. Beaudoin:

Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask a supplementary question.

Does the minister mean that there will be a waiting period or that necessary arrangements will be taken so that those concerned will go back to work before reimbursing?

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE
Subtopic:   RECOVERY OF OVERPAYMENTS OF BENEFITS-REQUEST FOR DELAY
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LIB

Bryce Stuart Mackasey (Minister of Manpower and Immigration)

Liberal

Mr. Mackasey:

In so much as possible.

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE
Subtopic:   RECOVERY OF OVERPAYMENTS OF BENEFITS-REQUEST FOR DELAY
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REQUEST FOR ASSURANCE THAT PLAN IS ACTUARIALLY SOUND

PC

Lincoln MacCauley Alexander

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Lincoln M. Alexander (Hamilton West):

Mr. Speaker, perhaps this is a related question in that it involves the Unemployment Insurance Commission. During the debate on the Unemployment Insurance Commission the minister continually advised the House that the plan was actuarially sound and he staked his reputation on that. I ask the minister whether, now that he has had an opportunity to review the facts, particularly in the last week, he can in fact now state that the plan is actuarially sound?

Topic:   REQUEST FOR ASSURANCE THAT PLAN IS ACTUARIALLY SOUND
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LIB

Bryce Stuart Mackasey (Minister of Manpower and Immigration)

Liberal

Hon. Bryce Mackasey (Minister of Manpower and Immigration):

Mr. Speaker, I will explain it again and I will be glad to stake my reputation on my statement.

Topic:   REQUEST FOR ASSURANCE THAT PLAN IS ACTUARIALLY SOUND
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Some hon. Members:

Yes or no?

Topic:   REQUEST FOR ASSURANCE THAT PLAN IS ACTUARIALLY SOUND
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LIB

Bryce Stuart Mackasey (Minister of Manpower and Immigration)

Liberal

Mr. Mackasey:

The difference between the payments made to the unfortunate people of Canada who are not working and the revenue received from employers and employees comes from two sources. I will be very short, Mr. Speaker. It comes from weekly contributions from employers and employees with the balance coming from the consolidated revenue fund. So for the first time in history the plan is actuarially sound and, unlike 1961, will not need another blood transfusion.

Topic:   REQUEST FOR ASSURANCE THAT PLAN IS ACTUARIALLY SOUND
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PC

Lincoln MacCauley Alexander

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Alexander:

Mr. Speaker, in light of the fact the minister indicated to the Canadian people that the government was unconcerned about the . cost of this plan and only concerned about whether the unemployed got their cheques, is the minister now in a position to say how sorry he is for having made such a stupid statement?

Topic:   REQUEST FOR ASSURANCE THAT PLAN IS ACTUARIALLY SOUND
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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh!

Topic:   REQUEST FOR ASSURANCE THAT PLAN IS ACTUARIALLY SOUND
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please.

Topic:   REQUEST FOR ASSURANCE THAT PLAN IS ACTUARIALLY SOUND
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EXTERNAL AFFAIRS

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Mr. Georges-C. Lachance@Lafontaine

Mr. Speaker, taking part in this question period is excellent training for the next Olympic games.

I should like to put a question to the Secretary of State for External Affairs concerning the problem of Ugandese refugees. Could he tell us whether he intends to draw it to the attention of the United Nations, since I feel that it is a matter which does not affect only the member countries of the Commonwealth?

September 1, 1972

Topic:   REQUEST FOR ASSURANCE THAT PLAN IS ACTUARIALLY SOUND
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   EXPULSION OF ASIANS FROM UGANDA-REQUEST THAT PROBLEM BE SUBMITTED TO UNITED NATIONS
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LIB

Mitchell William Sharp (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Hon. Mitchell Sharp (Secretary of State for External Affairs):

Yes, Mr. Speaker, I expect that during my intervention in the General Assembly debate I will be referring to this and other questions that affect human rights. This is one of the principal concerns of the Canadian government, and I know I will be speaking for everyone in the House in raising these questions at that time.

Topic:   REQUEST FOR ASSURANCE THAT PLAN IS ACTUARIALLY SOUND
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   EXPULSION OF ASIANS FROM UGANDA-REQUEST THAT PROBLEM BE SUBMITTED TO UNITED NATIONS
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Mr. Georges-C. Lachance@Lafontaine

Mr. Speaker, I should like to put a supplementary question in order to know whether steps have been taken concerning the transport of those Asiatic refugees to Canada, as there is apparently a transport problem. Could the minister or the minister responsible for immigration tell us how many persons up to now have been accepted as immigrants to Canada?

Topic:   REQUEST FOR ASSURANCE THAT PLAN IS ACTUARIALLY SOUND
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   TRANSPORTATION OF ASIAN REFUGEES FROM UGANDA-NUMBER OF IMMIGRANTS TO BE ADMITTED
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LIB

Bryce Stuart Mackasey (Minister of Manpower and Immigration)

Liberal

Hon. Bryce Mackasey (Minister of Manpower and Immigration):

Mr. Speaker, there is an advance party from the Department of Immigration in Uganda setting up headquarters and having local support staff. This advance party is mainly from Beirut and is being supplemented from Europe. It is very difficult to estimate the precise number of people that will be coming until our operation begins early next week.

Topic:   REQUEST FOR ASSURANCE THAT PLAN IS ACTUARIALLY SOUND
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   TRANSPORTATION OF ASIAN REFUGEES FROM UGANDA-NUMBER OF IMMIGRANTS TO BE ADMITTED
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September 1, 1972