July 5, 1972

NDP

John Edward Broadbent

New Democratic Party

Mr. Edward Broadbent (Oshawa-Whitby):

Mr. Speaker, in view of the fact that 50 per cent of the businessmen do not think the budget is likely to do anything about unemployment, will the Prime Minister consult with the Minister of Finance to see whether he would introduce measures to increase the demand side of the economic curve by reducing taxes for individual taxpayers?

Topic:   EFFECT OF BUDGET ON ALLEVIATING UNEMPLOYMENT-GOVERNMENT INTENTION RESPECTING FURTHER MEASURES
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

The hon. member for Winnipeg North Centre.

Topic:   EFFECT OF BUDGET ON ALLEVIATING UNEMPLOYMENT-GOVERNMENT INTENTION RESPECTING FURTHER MEASURES
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PENSIONS

AMENDMENTS TO QUEBEC PENSION PLAN-EFFECT ON UNIFORMITY WITH CANADA PENSION PLAN-GOVERNMENT ACTION

NDP

Stanley Howard Knowles (N.D.P. House Leader; Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker, may I direct a question to the Minister of National Health and Welfare. In view of the serious situation that will develop in Canada if the Canada Pension Plan and the Quebec Pension Plan get out of line, and in view of the fact that the Quebec National Assembly has passed a bill to amend the Quebec Pension plan effective January 1, 1973, may I ask the minister what steps the federal government is taking to try to cope with this situation?

Topic:   PENSIONS
Subtopic:   AMENDMENTS TO QUEBEC PENSION PLAN-EFFECT ON UNIFORMITY WITH CANADA PENSION PLAN-GOVERNMENT ACTION
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LIB

John Carr Munro (Minister of Amateur Sport; Minister of National Health and Welfare)

Liberal

Hon. John C. Munro (Minister oi National Health and Welfare):

Yes, Mr. Speaker. I had an opportunity to talk very recently to the minister responsible in that province. I do not think there are any changes in the Quebec Pen-

July 5, 1972

Inquiries of the Ministry

sion Plan that are that much out of line. They have the same general thrust as the ones we recommended in the white paper. I am very hopeful we can still preserve uniformity and can get together with the other provinces and come up with changes to the Canada Pension Plan that may fit in very well with what is proposed in Quebec. If there are things proposed as a result of discussion with the other provinces that are not in the Quebec bill, I do not anticipate that that will preclude changes there. In other words, I do not think the prospect is all that dismal. In fact, I am relatively optimistic that uniformity can be preserved.

Topic:   PENSIONS
Subtopic:   AMENDMENTS TO QUEBEC PENSION PLAN-EFFECT ON UNIFORMITY WITH CANADA PENSION PLAN-GOVERNMENT ACTION
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NDP

Stanley Howard Knowles (N.D.P. House Leader; Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker, as a supplementary question may I ask the minister if he will convene a meeting of the appropriate ministers from the other provinces very soon in the hope that plans can be worked out so that the nearest possible approach to uniformity may be achieved before January 1?

Topic:   PENSIONS
Subtopic:   AMENDMENTS TO QUEBEC PENSION PLAN-EFFECT ON UNIFORMITY WITH CANADA PENSION PLAN-GOVERNMENT ACTION
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LIB

John Carr Munro (Minister of Amateur Sport; Minister of National Health and Welfare)

Liberal

Mr. Munro:

Yes, that is our aim, to try to meet the January 1 deadline in order to preserve uniformity. Whether the mechanics, in terms of the method of operating that the hon. member has suggested, are the best, I do not know right now. Certainly we are meeting with the other provinces; our officials are talking to their officials. If it seems that the matter could be speeded up by having all the ministers meet at one time as opposed to bilateral discussions, we would be prepared to consider that.

Topic:   PENSIONS
Subtopic:   AMENDMENTS TO QUEBEC PENSION PLAN-EFFECT ON UNIFORMITY WITH CANADA PENSION PLAN-GOVERNMENT ACTION
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NDP

Stanley Howard Knowles (N.D.P. House Leader; Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker, I have one more supplementary question. In view of the fact that one of the changes made in the Quebec Pension Plan is to increase to 3 per cent the rate of escalation of benefits after they have been put in pay, and in view of the fact that this was not in the white paper proposals of the federal government, will arrangements be made to include this matter in discussions with the provinces?

Topic:   PENSIONS
Subtopic:   AMENDMENTS TO QUEBEC PENSION PLAN-EFFECT ON UNIFORMITY WITH CANADA PENSION PLAN-GOVERNMENT ACTION
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LIB

John Carr Munro (Minister of Amateur Sport; Minister of National Health and Welfare)

Liberal

Mr. Munro:

Whatever changes the government may be prepared to consider with reference to its original proposals would be matters of policy for us to consider, and we have not yet reached that state.

Topic:   PENSIONS
Subtopic:   AMENDMENTS TO QUEBEC PENSION PLAN-EFFECT ON UNIFORMITY WITH CANADA PENSION PLAN-GOVERNMENT ACTION
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AMENDMENTS TO QUEBEC PENSION PLAN-PRIOR NOTIFICATION OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

NDP

David Lewis

New Democratic Party

Mr. David Lewis (York South):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to ask the Minister of National Health and Welfare whether he or the federal government was informed about the intention of the Quebec authorities to propose these changes before they were introduced in the National Assembly in Quebec or whether to his knowledge the Quebec minister discussed them with the ministers of other provinces as well as or in place of the federal government?

Topic:   AMENDMENTS TO QUEBEC PENSION PLAN-PRIOR NOTIFICATION OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
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LIB

John Carr Munro (Minister of Amateur Sport; Minister of National Health and Welfare)

Liberal

Hon. John C. Munro (Minister of National Health and Welfare):

In answer to the latter part of the hon. member's question, I am not prepared to say what discussions Quebec may have had with other provinces because personally I am not aware of them. So far as the first part of the question is concerned, I think it would be fair to say that we had some notice that Quebec was going to pro-

ceed, although perhaps not precisely as to the date on which they would be implementing the legislation.

Topic:   AMENDMENTS TO QUEBEC PENSION PLAN-PRIOR NOTIFICATION OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
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REGIONAL ECONOMIC EXPANSION

JAMES BAY HYDROELECTRIC PROJECT-INQUIRY RESPECTING PARTICIPATION OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

SC

David Réal Caouette

Social Credit

Mr. Real Caouette (Temiscamingue):

Mr. Speaker, I wish to direct a question to the Minister of Regional Economic Expansion.

Would the minister tell us whether the central government contributes one way or another to the James Bay development project or if it is left entirely to the province of Quebec?

Topic:   REGIONAL ECONOMIC EXPANSION
Subtopic:   JAMES BAY HYDROELECTRIC PROJECT-INQUIRY RESPECTING PARTICIPATION OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
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LIB

Jean Marchand (Minister of Regional Economic Expansion)

Liberal

Hon. lean Marchand (Minister of Regional Economic Expansion):

We have not entered into shared programs with the province of Quebec. That province proceeds alone with the development of James Bay. The Quebec government has indicated to us that it would make special requests, including one for the establishment of an airport, for example, but those are matters which will be considered by every department involved and not exclusively by mine.

Topic:   REGIONAL ECONOMIC EXPANSION
Subtopic:   JAMES BAY HYDROELECTRIC PROJECT-INQUIRY RESPECTING PARTICIPATION OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
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TAXATION

REASONS FOR JOHN WELDON NOT BEING REAPPOINTED TO APPEAL BOARD

PC

George Harris Hees

Progressive Conservative

Hon. George Hees (Prince Edward-Hastings):

Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the Minister of Justice. Would he take the first opportunity on motions, preferably tomorrow, to outline to the House why Mr. John Weldon, whose effectiveness as a member of the Tax Appeal Board has never been questioned, was not reappointed to serve until the age of 70, six years from now, when two other members of the same board, Mr. St-Onge and Mr. Frost, have both been reappointed to serve partial terms until the age of 70?

Topic:   TAXATION
Subtopic:   REASONS FOR JOHN WELDON NOT BEING REAPPOINTED TO APPEAL BOARD
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July 5, 1972