Mr. Deputy Speaicer:
Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the said motion? All those in favour will please say yea.
Yea.
Mr. Deputy Speaker:
All those opposed will please say nay.
Nay.
Mr. Maclnnis:
Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order because of a ruling made earlier by the Chair to the effect that a member on this side of the House had walked in when the Chair was putting the vote, while at the same time the Chair failed to recognize that the same thing happened on the other side of the House. The Chair's attention was drawn to the fact that during the vote on No. 42 a member on the other side had left his seat. I think at that time there should have been a ruling, because the Chair was very well aware of the fact.
Shame!
Oh, oh!
Mr. Deputy Speaker:
Order, please. Is the hon. member rising on a point of order?
Mr. Maclnnis:
On a question of privilege, Mr. Speaker. I have put a point of order before the Chair in which the Chair was very much aware of the situation, and according to Standing Order 12(2) the Speaker is obligated to do something about it in that he saw members on the other side and failed to recognize the same violation.
Oh, oh!
Sit down!
That is not a point of order.
Mr. Deputy Speaker:
Order, please. The Chair would like to hear the hon. member.
Mr. Maclnnis:
Mr. Speaker, I again draw your attention to Standing Order 12(2) and repeat that the rule was used in regard to a member from this side of the House while it was very obvious that violations were taking place on the other side of the House and during the vote on No. 42-
Mr. Duquet:
Every time you talk about the rules you are wrong.
Start all over again.
Mr. Deputy Speaker:
Order, please. I would think that hon. members would co-operate with the Chair and with the hon. member for Cape Breton-East Richmond (Mr. Maclnnis). In fairness to the hon. member, I think I should rule on this point of order but I am not in a position to do so until I hear the hon. member. I would ask hon. mem bers to hear the point of order.
Get it straight this time, Donnie.
Mr. Maclnnis:
At the request of hon. members on the other side of the House, I will repeat it. Standing Order 12(2) has been violated, and the Speaker drew on that rule to remind a member from this side of the House who had to leave, while at the same time the same violation was
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taking place on the government side of the House. The Speaker's attention was drawn to that fact during the vote on No. 42 and Mr. Speaker should have ruled on the member from the government side as well as members of the opposition.
Mr. Deputy Speaker:
The hon. member has asked me to rule on his point of order. I think he will understand, and I think all hon. members will understand, that I am in a position where I cannot rule because I do not have personal knowledge of the matter. I accept the hon. member's word but I am not in a position to rule because the matter to which the hon. member refers is not, in my consciousness, within my personal knowledge.