June 15, 1972

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Abram Ernest Epp

Hon. Martin P. O'Connell (Minister of Labour):

Mr. Speaker, the other measure to which I referred yesterday was the arbitration procedure. Of course, if the two parties do not wish to use this it is open to them, under their agreement and under the law, to come together and renegotiate an agreement, if that is their wish. It is not for me to intervene and suggest they reopen their agreement. That is for them. My position is that the law requires arbitration. That is the other procedure to which I referred.

Topic:   LABOUR RELATIONS
Subtopic:   QUEBEC-LONGSHOREMEN'S STRIKE-ALLEGED REFUSAL OF DEPARTMENT TO ALLOW SHIPPERS TO SUE UNIONS
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Gilbert F. Rondeau

Social Credit

Mr. Rondeau:

Mr. Speaker, I have a supplementary question.

I should like to know why his department prevents the shipowners from prosecuting unions for calling an illegal strike.

Topic:   LABOUR RELATIONS
Subtopic:   QUEBEC-LONGSHOREMEN'S STRIKE-ALLEGED REFUSAL OF DEPARTMENT TO ALLOW SHIPPERS TO SUE UNIONS
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Martin Patrick O'Connell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. O'Connell:

Mr. Speaker, in my view nothing would be served by going into court. That procedure was followed a few weeks ago and then withdrawn. The proper procedure, that which is required, is available to the two parties. It is a wide open procedure. It is arbitration, and that is the procedure that either or both of the parties should now adopt.

Topic:   LABOUR RELATIONS
Subtopic:   QUEBEC-LONGSHOREMEN'S STRIKE-ALLEGED REFUSAL OF DEPARTMENT TO ALLOW SHIPPERS TO SUE UNIONS
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order. The Chair will recognize the hon. member for Shefford, after which the hon. member for Sainte-Marie will be able to put his supplementary.

Topic:   LABOUR RELATIONS
Subtopic:   QUEBEC-LONGSHOREMEN'S STRIKE-ALLEGED REFUSAL OF DEPARTMENT TO ALLOW SHIPPERS TO SUE UNIONS
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QUEBEC-LONGSHOREMEN'S STRIKE-SUGGESTION THAT MINISTER ALLOW SHIPPERS TO SUE UNIONS

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Gilbert F. Rondeau

Social Credit

Mr. Rondeau:

Mr. Speaker, since neither party seems to be willing to resort to arbitration, would the hon. minister allow the party which wants to bring the conflict to an end, i.e. the shipowners, to prosecute the unions, so that the courts may decide whether the strike is legal or not?

Topic:   QUEBEC-LONGSHOREMEN'S STRIKE-SUGGESTION THAT MINISTER ALLOW SHIPPERS TO SUE UNIONS
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LIB

Martin Patrick O'Connell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. O'Connell:

Mr. Speaker, of course I am always .prepared to entertain applications for consent to prosecute from either party to the dispute. It is open to them to make an application at any time.

Topic:   QUEBEC-LONGSHOREMEN'S STRIKE-SUGGESTION THAT MINISTER ALLOW SHIPPERS TO SUE UNIONS
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QUEBEC-LONGSHOREMEN'S STRIKE-PROPOSED MEASURES TO SETTLE DISPUTE

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Georges-J. Valade

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Georges Valade (Sainte-Marie):

Mr. Speaker, may I direct a supplementary to the minister?

In view of the disastrous effects of this situation for the country as a whole, and in particular for the city of Montreal, can the minister tell the House whether he expects an early settlement of this conflict?

Can he also say when he replies to this question whether he has consulted with his colleague, the Minister of Manpower and Immigration (Mr. Mackasey) who participated in the preparation of collective agreements and in negotiations and whether he has made suggestions to the cabinet for solutions in order to bring about a settlement of the conflict?

Topic:   QUEBEC-LONGSHOREMEN'S STRIKE-PROPOSED MEASURES TO SETTLE DISPUTE
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Abram Ernest Epp

Hon. Martin P. O'Connell (Minister of Labour):

I sincerely trust that the two parties will come to their senses, recognize their obligation to themselves and the communi-

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ty and undertake the necessary steps to resolve the dispute.

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Eldon Mattison Woolliams

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Woolliams:

You have that line memorized.

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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. The Chair will recognize the hon. member for Hamilton West

-and then the hon. member for Joliette.

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QUEBEC-LONGSHOREMEN'S STRIKE-REQUEST THAT MINISTER INTERVENE

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Lincoln MacCauley Alexander

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Lincoln M. Alexander (Hamilton West):

Mr. Speaker, in the light of the fact it can now be concluded that neither party is prepared to pursue the remedy available to them in the agreement and that have shown no respect for the minister's telegram, and in light of the fact that the public interest is now being adversely affected, will the minister personally intervene now, go to the parties and indicate to them that this matter must be brought to arbitration, failing which the government must intervene? Will the minister do that rather than take the indirect approach?

Topic:   QUEBEC-LONGSHOREMEN'S STRIKE-REQUEST THAT MINISTER INTERVENE
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Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. The Chair will allow the minister to reply, but again it seems to me that this question has been asked a number of times today.

Topic:   QUEBEC-LONGSHOREMEN'S STRIKE-REQUEST THAT MINISTER INTERVENE
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Abram Ernest Epp

Hon. Martin P. O'Connell (Minister of Labour):

I am not

contemplating that action at the present time.

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QUEBEC-LONGSHOREMEN'S STRIKE-INQUIRY RESPECTING IMPOSITION OF ARBITRATION

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Roch La Salle

Independent

Mr. Roch La Salle (loliette):

Mr. Speaker, I wish to ask a supplementary question.

As the minister believes that this conflict can be settled only through arbitration-and I fully agree-could he tell the House whether he will compel the parties to accept arbitration?

Topic:   QUEBEC-LONGSHOREMEN'S STRIKE-INQUIRY RESPECTING IMPOSITION OF ARBITRATION
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Abram Ernest Epp

Hon. Martin P. O'Connell (Minister of Labour):

Mr. Speaker, I think I made it clear on a previous occasion in an answer that the act does not give the Minister of Labour the power to oblige or force, which was the other word used by the hon. member, the parties to arbitration. That is not the authority I have. The law contemplates that the parties will live up to their obligations under the law.

Topic:   QUEBEC-LONGSHOREMEN'S STRIKE-INQUIRY RESPECTING IMPOSITION OF ARBITRATION
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June 15, 1972