June 8, 1972

IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

The hon. member knows that the precedents related to Standing Order 43 are clear. Hon. mem-

Business of the House

bers should not attempt and are not allowed to argue the motion which they propose. I would think that Standing Order 43 gives rise to enough difficulties at the present time. It will be recognized that on a number of occasions in the past I have indicated why I thought there was something wrong with the practice in which we had become involved. I am afraid that what is happening today indicates that the Chair was correct in its assessment of the situation.

The hon. member for Lotbiniere.

Topic:   POLLUTION
Subtopic:   NOISE FROM OVERFLIGHTS OF SUPERSONIC
Sub-subtopic:   AIRCRAFTS-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION UNDER S.O. 43
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NDP

John Leroy Skoberg

New Democratic Party

Mr. Skoberg:

A further question of privilege, Mr. Speaker. It has always been my understanding that I had to lay the groundwork for the motion.

Topic:   POLLUTION
Subtopic:   NOISE FROM OVERFLIGHTS OF SUPERSONIC
Sub-subtopic:   AIRCRAFTS-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION UNDER S.O. 43
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. The hon. member should resume his seat. The Chair has recognized the hon. member for Lotbiniere.

Topic:   POLLUTION
Subtopic:   NOISE FROM OVERFLIGHTS OF SUPERSONIC
Sub-subtopic:   AIRCRAFTS-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION UNDER S.O. 43
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INDUSTRY

EFFECTS OF IMPORTATION OF TEXTILE PRODUCTS AND SHOES-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION UNDER S.O. 43

SC

André-Gilles Fortin

Social Credit

Mr. Andre Fortin (Lotbiniere):

In view of the extremely difficult situation facing the footwear and textile industries in Canada which are unable to compete with massive imports, I move, seconded by the hon. member for Shefford (Mr. Rondeau):

That the problem of textile and footwear imports and their impact on our national industry, be referred forthwith to the standing committee of finance, trade and econdomic affairs, in order that efficient means could be devised to restore the competitive position of these Canadian industries and save the jobs they already provide to Canadians.

Topic:   INDUSTRY
Subtopic:   EFFECTS OF IMPORTATION OF TEXTILE PRODUCTS AND SHOES-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION UNDER S.O. 43
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

The House has heard the motion moved by the hon. member for Lotbiniere. It is moved under the terms of Standing Order 43 and requires the unanimous consent of the House.

Is there unanimous consent?

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Subtopic:   EFFECTS OF IMPORTATION OF TEXTILE PRODUCTS AND SHOES-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION UNDER S.O. 43
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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

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An hon. Member:

No.

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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

There is not unanimous consent and the motion cannot be put.

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Subtopic:   EFFECTS OF IMPORTATION OF TEXTILE PRODUCTS AND SHOES-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION UNDER S.O. 43
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MEASURES TO COMBAT EFFECTS OF NON-MEDICAL USE-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION UNDER S.O. 43.

SC

Joseph Adrien Henri Lambert

Social Credit

Mr. Adrien Lambert (Bellechasse):

Mr. Speaker, in view of the great use made today of Standing Order 43,1 would like to move a motion under that standing order on a pressing and urgent matter.

June 8, 1972

Business of the House

A review of present measures is urgently needed in order to fight the damages caused by the non-medical use of drugs, especially by college and university students. The use of barbiturates has tripled, as has that of hallucinatory drugs other than LSD, while it has more than doubled in the case of-

Topic:   MEASURES TO COMBAT EFFECTS OF NON-MEDICAL USE-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION UNDER S.O. 43.
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. 1 will remind the hon. member that he is clearly out of order when he tries to make a long speech in support of a motion under Standing Order 43. I suggest that even if hon. members are unhappy about the events of the day, they should still make an effort to respect the spirit of the rules of this House.

Topic:   MEASURES TO COMBAT EFFECTS OF NON-MEDICAL USE-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION UNDER S.O. 43.
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SC

Joseph Adrien Henri Lambert

Social Credit

Mr. Lambert (Bellechasse):

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I always respect your suggestions, I will limit my explanations forthwith to the terms of Standing Order 43.1 therefore move, seconded by the hon. member for Richmond (Mr. Beaudoin):

That this House give immediate consideration to the problem of increase in drug abuse in order to urge the Minister of National Health and Welfare to take the necessary steps, jointly with the provincial health ministers, to eliminate this plague.

Topic:   MEASURES TO COMBAT EFFECTS OF NON-MEDICAL USE-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION UNDER S.O. 43.
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

The House has heard the motion. Is there unanimous consent?

Topic:   MEASURES TO COMBAT EFFECTS OF NON-MEDICAL USE-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION UNDER S.O. 43.
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Some hon. Members:

No.

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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

The motion cannot be put, as there is not unanimous consent.

Topic:   MEASURES TO COMBAT EFFECTS OF NON-MEDICAL USE-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION UNDER S.O. 43.
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PC

Georges-J. Valade

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Valade:

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order.

I would like Mr. Speaker, to call through you, the attention of the House to the fact that systematic use is being made this afternoon of Standing Order 43 which provides that:

A motion may, in case of urgent and pressing necessity previously explained by the moverand it ends as follows:

-be made by unanimous consent of the House-

I think this Standing Order has been abused and to this moment not one hon. member who has presented a motion under this rule has been able to prove its urgency. To prevent the House from wasting valuable time I would like you, Mr. Speaker, to explain this Standing Order.

Topic:   MEASURES TO COMBAT EFFECTS OF NON-MEDICAL USE-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION UNDER S.O. 43.
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

The hon. member for Sainte-Marie will appreciate, as I stated a moment ago, that on many occasions I have given my own interpretation of this Standing Order and I have never interpreted it as being a new application of Standing Order 26 which, as the House is aware, was changed in 1968. Besides, Order 43 which dates back to 1867, should allow hon. members to submit urgent motions without any previous notice as normally acquired.

It is only under such extreme circumstances that hon. members should resort to Standing Order 43. This is the way I have always interpreted it.

[Mr. Lambert (Bellechasse).l

Topic:   MEASURES TO COMBAT EFFECTS OF NON-MEDICAL USE-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION UNDER S.O. 43.
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PC

Erik Nielsen

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Nielsen:

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. What is happening here tonight is obvious and results from the government's own ineptness earlier in the day. Rather than prolonging the agony involved in these delays, may I suggest to the acting government House leader that, if he could guarantee the Social Credit party a full day's debate, we could get on with the business of the day.

Topic:   MEASURES TO COMBAT EFFECTS OF NON-MEDICAL USE-REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE MOTION UNDER S.O. 43.
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June 8, 1972