April 19, 1972

LIB

James (Jim) Gordon Lind

Liberal

Mr. J. G. Lind (Middlesex):

Mr. Speaker, we are sure that the two great national railway systems, Canadian National and Canadian Pacific, are doing their best to move all the grain from the west, but my concern and question are directed to the Minister of Transport. What is the minister going to do about the boxcar situation to move lumber from British Columbia to Ontario where it is greatly needed for housing construction?

Topic:   TRANSPORT
Subtopic:   SHORTAGE OF RAILWAY CARS FOR MOVING BRITISH COLUMBIA LUMBER
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Some hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

Topic:   TRANSPORT
Subtopic:   SHORTAGE OF RAILWAY CARS FOR MOVING BRITISH COLUMBIA LUMBER
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LIB

Donald Campbell Jamieson (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Hon. Donald C. Jamieson (Minister of Transport):

Mr. Speaker, I thank the hon. member for not giving me notice of that question. I answered it in considerable detail yesterday. I believe the statistics are on the record and that some improvement has started as of yesterday and will continue in the weeks immediately ahead.

Topic:   TRANSPORT
Subtopic:   SHORTAGE OF RAILWAY CARS FOR MOVING BRITISH COLUMBIA LUMBER
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Some hon. Members:

Supplementary.

Topic:   TRANSPORT
Subtopic:   SHORTAGE OF RAILWAY CARS FOR MOVING BRITISH COLUMBIA LUMBER
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. I can assure hon. members that I am not necessarily impressed by the loudness of their calls. I see hon. members standing. It is not necessary for them to try to impress the Chair in this way. The hon. member for Middlesex.

Topic:   TRANSPORT
Subtopic:   SHORTAGE OF RAILWAY CARS FOR MOVING BRITISH COLUMBIA LUMBER
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LIB

James (Jim) Gordon Lind

Liberal

Mr. Lind:

Is it true that some of the large manufacturers of plywood have to negotiate with the CNR to supply their own boxcars in order to move their product to the eastern provinces?

Topic:   TRANSPORT
Subtopic:   SHORTAGE OF RAILWAY CARS FOR MOVING BRITISH COLUMBIA LUMBER
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please.

Topic:   TRANSPORT
Subtopic:   SHORTAGE OF RAILWAY CARS FOR MOVING BRITISH COLUMBIA LUMBER
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DECISION ON USE OF NATIONAL HARBOURS BOARD TERMINAL, VANCOUVER, TO HANDLE SPECIALTY CROPS

NDP

John Stratford Burton

New Democratic Party

Mr. John Burton (Regina East):

Mr. Speaker, I would like to address my question to the minister in charge of the Canadian Wheat Board. In view of the fact the National Harbours Board terminal, now unused in Vancouver, could be put into operating condition for some $200,000 to handle specialty grains, can the minister indicate when we might expect a decision on this matter which he said he will take under consideration?

Topic:   DECISION ON USE OF NATIONAL HARBOURS BOARD TERMINAL, VANCOUVER, TO HANDLE SPECIALTY CROPS
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LIB

Otto Emil Lang (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada; Minister responsible for the Canadian Wheat Board)

Liberal

Hon. Otto E. Lang (Minister of Justice):

Mr. Speaker, I did not say that I was taking it under consideration but that it was under consideration and was being looked at

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from the point of view of cost and benefit. There are other ways of handling additional grain, particularly clean grain, in the existing terminals, and these alternatives have to be balanced against the cost.

Topic:   DECISION ON USE OF NATIONAL HARBOURS BOARD TERMINAL, VANCOUVER, TO HANDLE SPECIALTY CROPS
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BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

REQUEST THAT DEBATE ON CNR FINANCING BILL BE

PC

Robert Elgin McKinley

Progressive Conservative

Mr. R. E. McKinley (Huron):

Mr. Speaker, my question is to the government House leader. In view of the concern expressed by many members with regard to railroad problems, will the government House leader consider bringing the CNR financing bill before the House today or tomorrow so they can be explored and debated in more detail?

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   REQUEST THAT DEBATE ON CNR FINANCING BILL BE
Sub-subtopic:   RESUMED IN LIGHT OF TRANSPORTATION PROBLEMS
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LIB

Allan Joseph MacEachen (President of the Privy Council; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Hon. Allan J. MacEachen (President of the Privy Council):

Mr. Speaker, if we can make some progress on the items I announced on Thursday last, I will be happy to bring on the CNR bill just after that.

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   REQUEST THAT DEBATE ON CNR FINANCING BILL BE
Sub-subtopic:   RESUMED IN LIGHT OF TRANSPORTATION PROBLEMS
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MEDICARE AND HOSPITALIZATION-ACCEPTANCE OF NEW GOVERNMENT COST-SHARING FORMULA BY PROVINCES

NDP

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

New Democratic Party

Mr. T. C. Douglas (Nanaimo-Cowichan-The Islands):

Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Minister of National Health and Welfare. It arises out of the cost-sharing formula he has offered to the provinces, which will have the effect of tying the federal government's contribution to hospital insurance and medicare to the growth of the gross national product. May I ask the minister how many provinces have accepted this formula, what provinces have rejected it and, since March 31 was the cut-off date, has it been closed or is the offer of the thrust fund still open to the provinces?

Topic:   MEDICARE AND HOSPITALIZATION-ACCEPTANCE OF NEW GOVERNMENT COST-SHARING FORMULA BY PROVINCES
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LIB

John Carr Munro (Minister of Amateur Sport; Minister of National Health and Welfare)

Liberal

Hon. John C. Munro (Minister of National Health and Welfare):

Mr. Speaker, answering the latter part of the question first, the offer of the thrust fund is still open. As to the first part of the hon. member's question, none has actually accepted and none has rejected. What is going on now is that they are making their views known with reference to the last proposal that was made by the federal government. They are suggesting some changes and we are considering those. It has not really gotten to the point of actual acceptance or rejection.

Topic:   MEDICARE AND HOSPITALIZATION-ACCEPTANCE OF NEW GOVERNMENT COST-SHARING FORMULA BY PROVINCES
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NDP

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

New Democratic Party

Mr. Douglas:

Since the federal government's offer would undoubtedly place a larger share of the cost of these programs on the provincial governments, is the minister prepared to consider as an interim step continuing the present cost-sharing arrangement until such time as the full effect of the thrust fund in providing lower cost facilities becomes fully operative?

Topic:   MEDICARE AND HOSPITALIZATION-ACCEPTANCE OF NEW GOVERNMENT COST-SHARING FORMULA BY PROVINCES
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LIB

John Carr Munro (Minister of Amateur Sport; Minister of National Health and Welfare)

Liberal

Mr. Munro:

No, Mr. Speaker. We are not prepared to consider that, although I do not agree with the premise of the hon. member's question; if I understood him correctly, he said that this formula would cast a greater share on the provinces in terms of health expenditures. The whole formula was based on the federal and provincial governments coming to some agreement jointly with regard to controlling the rate of escalation based on an agreement that it be controlled, and it was on this basis this formula was offered.

Topic:   MEDICARE AND HOSPITALIZATION-ACCEPTANCE OF NEW GOVERNMENT COST-SHARING FORMULA BY PROVINCES
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NDP

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

New Democratic Party

Mr. Douglas:

A final supplementary question.

Topic:   MEDICARE AND HOSPITALIZATION-ACCEPTANCE OF NEW GOVERNMENT COST-SHARING FORMULA BY PROVINCES
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April 19, 1972