April 6, 1971

PRESENCE IN GALLERY OF ITALIAN PARLIAMENTARY DELEGATION AND SECRETARY GENERAL OF INTER-PARLIAMENTARY UNION

IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

May I bring to the attention of hon. members the presence in the gallery of a delegation of parliamentarians from an enchanting country with which we have close ties of friendship; I am referring to Italy.

This distinguished group representing both Houses of the Italian Parliament is led jointly by Senator Antonio Pecoraro, and by the Honourable Giuseppe Fracassi. On behalf of all members of this House, I am pleased to extend to these visitors a most cordial welcome to Canada.

Topic:   PRESENCE IN GALLERY OF ITALIAN PARLIAMENTARY DELEGATION AND SECRETARY GENERAL OF INTER-PARLIAMENTARY UNION
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Some hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

An equally distinguished compatriot of the members of that delegation is also present in the Speaker's gallery today, although he is here on a distinct mission. He is the recently appointed Secretary General of the Inter-Parliamentary Union, Mr. Pio-Carlo Terenzio.

Hon. members, especially those who are members of the Canadian group of the Inter-Parliamentary Union, are honoured that Mr. Terenzio should have come here for the express purpose of getting in touch with them at the beginning of his mandate. We wish him a most cordial welcome to Canada.

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ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

THE CENSUS

LIB

Jean-Luc Pepin (Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Hon. Jean-Luc Pepin (Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce):

Mr. Speaker, I wish to table, pursuant to Standing Order 41(2), the list of the census commissioners appointed on April 1, 1971, for the 1971 census.

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Subtopic:   THE CENSUS
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING OF LIST OF COMMISSIONERS
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ORAL QUESTION PERIOD

MANPOWER

PC

Robert Lorne Stanfield (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Robert L. Stanfield (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, may I direct a question to the President of the Treasury Board. In view of the very alarming forecast with regard to the difficulties that graduates in science and engineering are foreseen as encountering in the immediate future and perhaps for some time, may I ask the President of the Treasury Board whether he has any measures in mind to recommend to the government or any measures that he proposes to take to assist these graduates in obtaining appropriate employment in Canada so that we may retain the services of these highly trained individuals in Canada and avoid also discouraging those who are in the process of training in these fields? Has the minister any plans to propose?

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Subtopic:   MANPOWER
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURES TO ASSIST SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING GRADUATES TO OBTAIN APPROPRIATE EMPLOYMENT-STIMULATION OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT
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Charles Mills (Bud) Drury (President of the Treasury Board)

Liberal

Hon. C. M. Drury (President of the Treasury Board):

Mr. Speaker, the hon. gentleman has made reference to what is a very serious problem in the field of science and engineering graduates which was to some extent evident last year, will be much more apparent this year and, again, will be a continuing problem next year. The report that has been published makes quite clear that it is unlikely that these science and engineering graduates, these highly trained men, will be without employment but suggests that perhaps they will not find for themselves the kind of employment which would be ideal from the point of view of their training. The fact of the matter is that, given the state of industrial and economic development which this country now has, given the degree to which our industrial and economic machinery in the scientific and technological field is currently staffed, there will not be immediately available the places to absorb, in the kinds of positions which have been classical in the past, all the opportunities needed. There will, I am sure, be employment for these qualified men, which will have the result of upgrading, I hope quite substantially and generally, our technology and its application.

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Subtopic:   MANPOWER
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURES TO ASSIST SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING GRADUATES TO OBTAIN APPROPRIATE EMPLOYMENT-STIMULATION OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT
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NDP

David Lewis

New Democratic Party

Mr. Lewis:

What did the minister say? What did you say, Bud?

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Subtopic:   MANPOWER
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURES TO ASSIST SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING GRADUATES TO OBTAIN APPROPRIATE EMPLOYMENT-STIMULATION OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT
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PC

Robert Lorne Stanfield (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Slanfield:

Mr. Speaker, I think in summary the minister said-

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Subtopic:   MANPOWER
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. Perhaps the Leader of the Opposition might ask a supplementary question.

Inquiries of the Ministry

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Subtopic:   MANPOWER
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An hon. Member:

The reply will be interesting.

April 6, 1971

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Subtopic:   MANPOWER
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PC

Robert Lorne Stanfield (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Stanfield:

May I ask the minister whether one of the fundamental reasons for the difficulty being faced by these engineering and science graduates is that research and development emits developed by private industry have practically levelled off during the last three years under the present administration? Is the difficulty of these graduates not substantially due to the stagnation of research and development in this country-

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Subtopic:   MANPOWER
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURES TO ASSIST SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING GRADUATES TO OBTAIN APPROPRIATE EMPLOYMENT-STIMULATION OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please.

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Subtopic:   MANPOWER
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURES TO ASSIST SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING GRADUATES TO OBTAIN APPROPRIATE EMPLOYMENT-STIMULATION OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT
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PC

Robert Lorne Stanfield (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Stanfield:

-in private industry? Has the minister any plans-

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Subtopic:   MANPOWER
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. The question of the Leader of the Opposition, it seems to me, is in the form of an argument. I doubt whether it is in order.

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PC

Robert Lorne Stanfield (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Stanfield:

Mr. Speaker, may I ask the President of the Treasury Board whether he has any plans to encourage and stimulate the development of research and development units in the private sector in view of the difficulty that has been indicated?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   MANPOWER
Sub-subtopic:   MEASURES TO ASSIST SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING GRADUATES TO OBTAIN APPROPRIATE EMPLOYMENT-STIMULATION OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT
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April 6, 1971