November 20, 1969

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

TRANSPORT AND COMMUNICATIONS

LIB

Donald Stovel Macdonald (President of the Privy Council; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Hon. Donald S. Macdonald (President of the Privy Council):

Mr. Speaker, let me try a

motion again in respect of airport ground transportation. If the House gives unanimous consent I should like to recommend the following order:

That the Standing Committee on Transport and Communications be directed to examine the subject matter of ground transportation at airports in Canada,

And that during its consideration of the aforementioned matter the committee be empowered to meet in Toronto and Montreal.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT AND COMMUNICATIONS
Sub-subtopic:   AIRPORT GROUND TRANSPORTATION-REFERENCE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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PC

Gerald William Baldwin (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. G. W. Baldwin (Peace River):

Mr. Speaker, in view of the changes that have been made the motion is more acceptable to us. One hon. member of this party wishes to make a comment. I recognize that this is out of order but-

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT AND COMMUNICATIONS
Sub-subtopic:   AIRPORT GROUND TRANSPORTATION-REFERENCE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. I do not think comments should be made or that a debate should take place until there is either unanimous consent or some other disposition.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT AND COMMUNICATIONS
Sub-subtopic:   AIRPORT GROUND TRANSPORTATION-REFERENCE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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PC

James Aloysius McGrath

Progressive Conservative

Mr. McGrath:

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. We do not want to withhold unanimous consent to this motion because we realize it is important. At the same time, I want to point out to Your Honour and the House that the committee has already been given a reference but has not yet had the opportunity of considering it. This reference was put forward by the Acting House Leader on November 3.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT AND COMMUNICATIONS
Sub-subtopic:   AIRPORT GROUND TRANSPORTATION-REFERENCE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. I suggest to hon. members that this is a matter of debate which might be considered when the motion is put to the House. There is a very simple matter to be considered now, whether or not there is unanimous consent. If there is no

unanimous consent, the motion will not be put. If there is, I will put the motion and then the hon. member for St. John's East and all other members of the House, if they wish, can take part in the debate and present arguments such as those the hon. member is now trying to make by way of a point of order, which is entirely irregular. Is there unanimous consent.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT AND COMMUNICATIONS
Sub-subtopic:   AIRPORT GROUND TRANSPORTATION-REFERENCE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT AND COMMUNICATIONS
Sub-subtopic:   AIRPORT GROUND TRANSPORTATION-REFERENCE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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LIB

Donald Stovel Macdonald (President of the Privy Council; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Macdonald (Rosedale):

Mr. Speaker, I

move:

That the Standing Committee on Transport and Communications be directed to examine the subject matter of ground transportation at airports in Canada,

And that during its consideration of the aforementioned matter the committee be empowered to meet in Toronto and Montreal.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT AND COMMUNICATIONS
Sub-subtopic:   AIRPORT GROUND TRANSPORTATION-REFERENCE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the said motion?

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT AND COMMUNICATIONS
Sub-subtopic:   AIRPORT GROUND TRANSPORTATION-REFERENCE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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PC

James Aloysius McGrath

Progressive Conservative

Mr. James A. McGrath (St. John's East):

Mr. Speaker, I merely wanted to ask, at the time the Government House Leader was seeking unanimous consent, for an assurance before I gave consent. I wanted him to agree that the committee would in fact take under consideration the reference it now has as set out in Hansard for November 3 at page 398.

This reference has to do with a study by the committee of the subject matters referred to it at the last session in relation to the Great Slave Lake Railway line and transportation problems in the Atlantic provinces. It also is to consider the evidence presented to the committee last session. Let me point out to the House that the committee has not yet considered this reference. I should like to extract from the Government House Leader an assurance that before the committee considers the new reference it will give priority to the reference now before it as set out on page 398 of Hansard.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT AND COMMUNICATIONS
Sub-subtopic:   AIRPORT GROUND TRANSPORTATION-REFERENCE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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LIB

Donald Stovel Macdonald (President of the Privy Council; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Macdonald (Rosedale):

Mr. Speaker, I should not like to follow the hon. member's suggestion that I should give instructions to any committee. I am sure his remarks have reached the ears of the members of the subcommittee on procedure and organization of

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Airport Ground Transportation that committee and that they will make a decision in this regard.

[DOT] (2:10 p.m.)

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT AND COMMUNICATIONS
Sub-subtopic:   AIRPORT GROUND TRANSPORTATION-REFERENCE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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PC

John (Jack) Henry Horner

Progressive Conservative

Mr. J. H. Horner (Crowfoot):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to comment on this motion. I agree completely with the hon. member for St. John's East in respect of his reservations about giving unanimous consent. We have now given unanimous consent that this subject matter be referred to the Standing Committee on Transport and Communications.

In the past month this committee has had ample opportunity to sit. It has not sat to consider the matters that were put before it and has not brought down a report on its trip to Labrador and northern Quebec. Since that trip there has been an airplane crash at Labrador City which could well indicate that there is a great need for the Department of Transport to provide better services at that airport. During last year's sittings of the committee evidence was heard with regard to the Great Slave Lake Railway claims. I think these two matters particularly should be dealt with first.

I do not in any way wish to suggest that the complaints of many citizens of Montreal against the Murray Hill taxi operation from Dorval airport to downtown Montreal should be set aside for any length of time. I do suggest, however, that there are other important matters before the, committee. It is a question of priority with us on this side of the House. We believe that those matters which came up first should be dealt with first. Perhaps the Government House Leader and the committee chairman will see that these matters are dealt with in that order. If they do, we will do our best to facilitate the work of the committee.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT AND COMMUNICATIONS
Sub-subtopic:   AIRPORT GROUND TRANSPORTATION-REFERENCE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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Some hon. Members:

Hear, hear.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT AND COMMUNICATIONS
Sub-subtopic:   AIRPORT GROUND TRANSPORTATION-REFERENCE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. Perhaps the discussion on this point should not proceed further. It seems to me hon. members are attempting to debate the order of business of a committee. If I recollect correctly what occurred yesterday, it seems to me the argument put forward for consideration by the Chair was that these matters ought to be left to the committee to decide. If hon. members were correct yesterday, as I thought they were, they are equally correct today. I believe these matters should be considered by the committee and not by the House at this time.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   TRANSPORT AND COMMUNICATIONS
Sub-subtopic:   AIRPORT GROUND TRANSPORTATION-REFERENCE TO STANDING COMMITTEE
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Motion agreed to.


INCOME TAX

IMPLEMENTATION OF SUPPLEMENTARY AGREEMENT BETWEEN CANADA AND SWEDEN

LIB

Donald Stovel Macdonald (President of the Privy Council; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Hon. Donald S. Macdonald (for ihe Minister of Finance) moved

for leave to introduce Bill No. C-156, to implement a supplementary income tax agreement between Canada and Sweden.

Topic:   INCOME TAX
Subtopic:   IMPLEMENTATION OF SUPPLEMENTARY AGREEMENT BETWEEN CANADA AND SWEDEN
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Motion agreed to, bill read the first time and ordered to be printed.


November 20, 1969