July 9, 1969

THE ROYAL ASSENT

IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

I have the honour to inform the house that I have received the following communication:

Post Office in dealing with its employees until these important and delicate negotiations have been completed.

I would therefore ask that the house grant unanimous consent that this motion go forward in order that these reports and the important matters with which they deal may receive the immediate attention of a committee of this house.

Topic:   THE ROYAL ASSENT
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GOVERNMENT HOUSE OTTAWA


I have the honour to inform you that the Hon. Wishart F. Spence, O.B.E., Puisne Judge of the Supreme Court of Canada, acting as Deputy of His Excellency the Governor General, will proceed to the Senate Chamber today, the 9th of July, at 5.45 p.m. for the purpose of giving Royal Assent to certain bills. I have the honour to be, Sir, Your obedient servant, Esmond Butler, Secretary to the Governor General.


ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT

PC

Heath Nelson Macquarrie

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Heath Macquarrie (Hillsborough):

should like to ask the unanimous consent of the house, seconded by my hon. friend from Oxford, to move the following motion pursuant to standing order 43:

That the reports of W. S. Martin of the grievances by postal workers against the Post Office be referred to the Standing Committee on Broadcasting, Films and Assistance to the Arts.

Under the terms of the standing order, I am entitled to explain the urgency of this motion. In the coming weeks the Post Office will be entering into negotiations with the postal workers, and unless some extremely pressing situation arises it appears unlikely that the house will have an opportunity to discuss this matter before adjourning for the summer recess. Consequently, we shall have no opportunity to consider the attitude of the

[DOT] (2:10 p.m.)

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT
Sub-subtopic:   REQUEST FOR CONSENT UNDER S.O. 43 TO DEBATE MOTION RESPECTING GRIEVANCES OF POSTAL WORKERS
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LIB

Donald Stovel Macdonald (President of the Privy Council; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Hon. Donald S. Macdonald (President of the Privy Council):

Mr. Speaker, had there been advance consultation it might perhaps have been possible to give unanimous consent; but there was none. Consequently the government is unable to agree to the motion.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT
Sub-subtopic:   REQUEST FOR CONSENT UNDER S.O. 43 TO DEBATE MOTION RESPECTING GRIEVANCES OF POSTAL WORKERS
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order. May I suggest that unless hon. members have a point of order to raise we should not allow debate of a motion moved under Standing Order 43. The hon. member is quite right to present a motion in this way under Standing Order 43, but he does require unanimous consent. If unanimous agreement is not given, then the matter cannot be proceeded with and there should not be a debate. However I do not wish to preclude other hon. members from raising other questions by way of a point of order.

Topic:   ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT
Sub-subtopic:   REQUEST FOR CONSENT UNDER S.O. 43 TO DEBATE MOTION RESPECTING GRIEVANCES OF POSTAL WORKERS
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REQUEST FOR CONSENT UNDER S.O. 43 TO DEBATE MOTION RESPECTING MOVEMENT OF FEED GRAIN

PC

Gerald William Baldwin (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. G. W. Baldwin (Peace River):

Mr. Speaker, I am not rising on a point of order. I also have a matter with respect to which I am sure the house will grant unanimous consent, since the question relates to a very urgent situation. The motion to which I am asking the house to give unanimous consent is as follows:

That this house recommends that the government take immediate steps to alleviate the particularly distressing and urgent agricultural situation prevailing in the area of Peace River, by expediting the delivery and transportation of large quantities of feed grain in the hands of farmers, including the appointment of a person or persons to take charge of the expediting of this feed grain movement.

July 9, 1969

Movement of Feed Grain

I should like to make five brief points which I am sure will persuade the government to consent to the motion.

First, farmers in the Peace River country have experienced unusually difficult conditions in five out of the last seven years which have aggravated their position.

Second, there is in the Peace River country, and in the district of Falher in particular, between five and six million bushels of feed grain including barley, oats, and low grade wheat, for which there is an immediate market for sale in British Columbia and eastern Canada.

Third, so few box cars have come into Peace River country that some farmers have not even had a one bushel quota and most are still limited to the two and three bushel quotas and may well not achieve the five bushels promised by the Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce (Mr. Pepin). Farmers will be able to sell feed grain to the British Columbia part of the Peace River country where buyers are willing and available to purchase it.

Fourth, a meeting of farm representatives was held on Sunday morning at the town of Falher which I attended and to which the Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce (Mr. Pepin) and the Minister of Agriculture (Mr. Olson) were invited but were unable to attend.

Fifth-

Topic:   REQUEST FOR CONSENT UNDER S.O. 43 TO DEBATE MOTION RESPECTING MOVEMENT OF FEED GRAIN
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. I am afraid I have suffered as long as I can. I suggest to the hon. member that the rules do not allow a lengthy statement at this point. In attempting to use standing order 43 in this way, the hon. member is circumventing the provisions of standing order 26. I think that standing order 43 was never intended to be used in the way hon. members are attempting to use it today. If I am wrong about this the Standing Committee on Procedure and Organization ought to take a look at standing order 43.

Topic:   REQUEST FOR CONSENT UNDER S.O. 43 TO DEBATE MOTION RESPECTING MOVEMENT OF FEED GRAIN
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PC

Gerald William Baldwin (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Baldwin:

Your Honour is quite right, but I have only one more sentence.

Topic:   REQUEST FOR CONSENT UNDER S.O. 43 TO DEBATE MOTION RESPECTING MOVEMENT OF FEED GRAIN
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Some hon. Members:

Sit down.

Topic:   REQUEST FOR CONSENT UNDER S.O. 43 TO DEBATE MOTION RESPECTING MOVEMENT OF FEED GRAIN
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PC

Gerald William Baldwin (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Baldwin:

At this meeting it was made perfectly clear-

Topic:   REQUEST FOR CONSENT UNDER S.O. 43 TO DEBATE MOTION RESPECTING MOVEMENT OF FEED GRAIN
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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh.

Topic:   REQUEST FOR CONSENT UNDER S.O. 43 TO DEBATE MOTION RESPECTING MOVEMENT OF FEED GRAIN
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. I wonder

whether the hon. member might be allowed to finish his statement.

IMr. Baldwin.]

Topic:   REQUEST FOR CONSENT UNDER S.O. 43 TO DEBATE MOTION RESPECTING MOVEMENT OF FEED GRAIN
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PC

Gerald William Baldwin (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Baldwin:

At this meeting it was made perfectly clear that the situation was urgent and difficult, but that great help would be provided by moving this feed grain, particularly as it could be immediately used in other parts of Canada and the box cars would only be required for a short time. I hope that the house will give unanimous consent, in light of this statement.

Topic:   REQUEST FOR CONSENT UNDER S.O. 43 TO DEBATE MOTION RESPECTING MOVEMENT OF FEED GRAIN
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order. The hon. member having put the question under Standing Order 43 I have to ask the house whether the hon. member has unanimous agreement to proceed as suggested.

Topic:   REQUEST FOR CONSENT UNDER S.O. 43 TO DEBATE MOTION RESPECTING MOVEMENT OF FEED GRAIN
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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

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July 9, 1969