January 23, 1969

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

FINANCE, TRADE AND ECONOMIC AFFAIRS


Fifth report of standing committee on finance, trade and economic affairs, in French and in English-Mr. Gaston Clermont (Gatineau) . [Note: Text of foregoing report appears in today's Votes and Proceedings.]


ORAL QUESTION PERIOD

EXTERNAL AFFAIRS

PC

Robert Lorne Stanfield (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Robert L. Stanfield (Leader of the Opposition):

I should like to ask the Secretary of State for External Affairs a question about something I read in the press

an announcement which I think might better have been made in the house. I should ask whether the statement attributed to him yesterday, that Canadian policy with regard to Nationalist China would be the subject of negotiation, indicates a change in government policy, or in the two China policy set forth by the Prime Minister some time ago.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   NATIONALIST CHINA-INQUIRY AS TO POSSIBLE CHANGE IN POLICY
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LIB

Mitchell William Sharp (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Hon. Mitchell Sharp (Secretary of State for External Affairs):

As far as I know, Mr. Speaker, this government has never enunciated a two China policy. I am sure the hon. gentleman will agree that when we hold these discussions with the Chinese authorities which, according to this government, have as their objective the recognition of the Peking regime, the question of Formosa will of course be a subject for negotiation.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   NATIONALIST CHINA-INQUIRY AS TO POSSIBLE CHANGE IN POLICY
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PC

Robert Lorne Stanfield (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Stanfield:

The hon. gentleman has indicated that the question of the Formosan

government is to be negotiated. Has the government been in touch with the Taiwan government about this matter, and is there anything the minister can report to the house in this connection?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   NATIONALIST CHINA-INQUIRY AS TO POSSIBLE CHANGE IN POLICY
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LIB

Mitchell William Sharp (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. Sharp:

The views of the Canadian government have been made public. Indeed one of the stated objects of the government is to bring about mutual recognition between Peking and Ottawa. The authorities of the Nationalist government know this, they have discussed it with me, and understand its implications.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   NATIONALIST CHINA-INQUIRY AS TO POSSIBLE CHANGE IN POLICY
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PC

Gerald William Baldwin (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. G. W. Baldwin (Peace River):

I should like to ask the minister whether, if he institutes discussions with the government of the People's Republic of China, he will make inquiries about the methods used by the government of that country in handling its relations with the press.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   NATIONALIST CHINA-INQUIRY AS TO POSSIBLE CHANGE IN POLICY
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PC

Robert Lorne Stanfield (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Stanfield:

Could the Secretary of State say whether a position has actually been taken by the government of Canada with regard to the timing of contacts with the representatives of Communist China or, if not, when such decision might be taken? Can the minister indicate where contacts with representatives of Red China are likely to take place?

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   NATIONALIST CHINA-INQUIRY AS TO POSSIBLE CHANGE IN POLICY
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LIB

Mitchell William Sharp (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. Sharp:

No decision has yet been

reached. The subject is now before cabinet for decision, and when decisions are made they will of course be made public.

Topic:   ORAL QUESTION PERIOD
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   NATIONALIST CHINA-INQUIRY AS TO POSSIBLE CHANGE IN POLICY
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POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT

COMMUNICATIONS AS A DEPARTMENTAL ACTIVITY

NDP

David Lewis (Parliamentary Leader of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. David Lewis (York South):

I should like to address a question to the Postmaster General arising out of a speech he made last night indicating that the post office might branch out into other forms of communication, including telephones. I should like to ask the Postmaster General whether his intention is to include telephone communications as part of the activities of the post office, particularly in view of the continued increases in

January 23, 1963

Inquiries of the Ministry telephone rates which the Bell Telephone Company is demanding and receiving.

Topic:   POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT
Subtopic:   COMMUNICATIONS AS A DEPARTMENTAL ACTIVITY
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LIB

Eric William Kierans (Postmaster General)

Liberal

Hon. Eric W. Kierans (Postmaster General):

Mr. Speaker, the exact words which I used yesterday afternoon in my speech were that to reorganize the post office on a business basis is itself a major undertaking. Beyond that, at this point I am in the realm of ideas, not policy. We may have to undertake major changes in structure to mould the post office into-

Topic:   POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT
Subtopic:   COMMUNICATIONS AS A DEPARTMENTAL ACTIVITY
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. I have to interrupt the minister for a moment to remind hon. members of the well established rule in connection with speeches that are made by ministers outside the house. The hon. member for York South can ask the minister a direct question. However, if he is now referring to a speech made outside the house he can only ask the Prime Minister whether the statements represent government policy. But I repeat that he can ask a question, if he so wishes, directly, as has already been done.

Topic:   POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT
Subtopic:   COMMUNICATIONS AS A DEPARTMENTAL ACTIVITY
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NDP

David Lewis (Parliamentary Leader of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Lewis:

Mr. Speaker, I am grateful for the indication that my question is proper. It was because of the minister's language that I asked him the question I did.

I should like to ask the minister a supplementary question. While he is preparing to make the post office more efficient, will he give consideration to introducing in Canada what is called the giro system for the post office, as recommended in and implemented by Great Britain, so that consumers can use the post office for other purposes and thus make greater use of the post office in competition with the chartered banks?

Topic:   POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT
Subtopic:   COMMUNICATIONS AS A DEPARTMENTAL ACTIVITY
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IND

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Independent

Mr. Speaker:

Order. The hon. member is asking a question of very general nature. I suggest it should not be asked at this time but rather placed on the order paper.

Topic:   POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT
Subtopic:   COMMUNICATIONS AS A DEPARTMENTAL ACTIVITY
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AIRPORTS

January 23, 1969