February 19, 1968

PC

Michael Starr (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Starr:

Order, please. Mr. Speaker, please call the yeas and nays.

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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LIB

Herman Maxwell Batten (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Deputy Speaker:

Is the hon. member

addressing his remarks to the Chair?

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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PC

Michael Starr (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Starr:

Your Honour called third reading and we should like you now to call the yeas and nays. I wish the Clerk would sit down.

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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LIB

Herman Maxwell Batten (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Deputy Speaker:

Shall I put the

motion, as moved by the Minister of Finance?

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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PC

Michael Starr (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Starr:

That is right, yes.

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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LIB

Hédard-J. Robichaud (Minister of Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. Robichaud:

Mr. Speaker-

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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PC

Michael Starr (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Starr:

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. Your Honour called third reading and we have asked for the yeas and nays to be called. Let us proceed now, and not retract.

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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LIB

Herman Maxwell Batten (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Deputy Speaker:

Order, please. I have put the motion for third reading as moved by the Minister of Finance.

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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An hon. Member:

But it was not seconded.

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh.

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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LIB

Allan Joseph MacEachen (Minister of National Health and Welfare; Minister of Amateur Sport; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. MacEachen:

I rise on a point of order, Mr. Speaker. The Minister of Finance has not moved the third reading of the bill, and the motion has not been seconded.

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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An hon. Member:

Oh, yes, it has.

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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LIB

Allan Joseph MacEachen (Minister of National Health and Welfare; Minister of Amateur Sport; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. MacEachen:

With respect, it has not

been.

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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PC

Michael Starr (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Starr:

What is the minister trying to do?

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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LIB

Mitchell William Sharp (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Sharp:

Nothing.

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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LIB

Herman Maxwell Batten (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Deputy Speaker:

Order, please. Do I understand that the Minister of Finance does not want the bill to be read a third time now?

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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An hon. Member:

At the next sitting of the house.

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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LIB

Mitchell William Sharp (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Sharp:

No, no.

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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Some hon. Members:

Shame.

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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Gordon Minto Churchill

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Churchill:

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. You asked the house, "Shall the

Income Tax Act

bill be read now a third time," and the answer of the house was, yes. That put the matter in the category of where Your Honour must put the motion, and you were proceeding to put the motion. It automatically follows that the Minister of Finance, who is the mover of the bill, has called for or is moving for third reading, and I do not see how any retraction can occur at this time.

The house was specifically asked by Your Honour whether the bill should be read a third time, and the answer of the house was, yes. Your Honour should proceed with the instructions of the house. The Speaker carries out the instructions of the house always; that is what the Speaker does. Your Honour knows what the house has instructed you to do and we should proceed to third reading.

Topic:   PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION
Subtopic:   SUBJECT MATTER OF QUESTIONS TO BE DEBATED
Sub-subtopic:   INCOME TAX ACT
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February 19, 1968