April 4, 1967


On the orders of the day:


PC

John George Diefenbaker (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. J. G. Diefenbaker (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, I would ask the Prime Minister if he would advise the house of the nature of the reply given to Mr. Justice Landreville's request for an opportunity to

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present his case before the House of Commons. This was done in the United Kingdom in 1828. Is the Prime Minister going to give the judge this opportunity? When will the government bring in the measure which will bring this situation to termination?

Topic:   MR. JUSTICE LANDREVILLE INQUIRY AS TO ACTION PROPOSED BY GOVERNMENT
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LIB

Lester Bowles Pearson (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Right Hon. L. B. Pearson (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, when I read the letter from Justice Landreville to which my right hon. friend refers I acknowledged it at once, and then referred it to the legal advisers to the crown for an opinion on the request that had been made. I received that opinion this morning. I will be studying it with my colleagues, and I hope to be able to make a statement as soon as that study is completed.

Topic:   MR. JUSTICE LANDREVILLE INQUIRY AS TO ACTION PROPOSED BY GOVERNMENT
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

Is the Prime Minister giving consideration to the suggestion of Mr. Justice Landreville?

Topic:   MR. JUSTICE LANDREVILLE INQUIRY AS TO ACTION PROPOSED BY GOVERNMENT
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LIB

Lester Bowles Pearson (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Mr. Pearson:

Mr. Speaker, I am studying the reply of the Department of Justice to my request for information as to precedents and as to the proper course which should be followed in a matter of this kind. Until that study is completed I am unable to answer my right hon. friend's question.

Topic:   MR. JUSTICE LANDREVILLE INQUIRY AS TO ACTION PROPOSED BY GOVERNMENT
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EXTERNAL AFFAIRS


On the orders of the day:


NDP

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

New Democratic Party

Mr. T. C. Douglas (Burnaby-Coquillam):

Mr. Speaker, may I ask the Prime Minister whether he has had an opportunity to study the text of the proposal of Secretary General U Thant with respect to his declaration that there should be a unilateral cease fire by the United States in Viet Nam, under which United States forces would not fire unless fired upon. In view of the fact that the Secretary General has indicated that he may make a proposal for a specific date, or ask governments affiliated with the United Nations to make such a proposal, is Canada prepared to support this suggestion by the Secretary General?

Topic:   MR. JUSTICE LANDREVILLE INQUIRY AS TO ACTION PROPOSED BY GOVERNMENT
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   VIET NAM-REQUEST BY UN SECRETARY GENERAL FOR CEASE FIRE
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LIB

Lester Bowles Pearson (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Right Hon. L. B. Pearson (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, we read with great interest the report of the Secretary General's statement, and we have been in touch with the Secretary General for clarification of that statement, which has certainly been ambiguously reported in certain quarters. As soon as we get that clarification we will be able to make a reply to the Secretary General.

Inquiries of the Ministry

His last proposal is apparently along the lines indicated by my hon. friend, that there should be a unilateral cease fire on the part of the United States. But there is apparently the exception which has been referred to, that this would not apply to returning fire that had been aimed at United States forces, and this might make for a very inadequate cease fire. This is the kind of clarification we are trying to obtain.

Topic:   MR. JUSTICE LANDREVILLE INQUIRY AS TO ACTION PROPOSED BY GOVERNMENT
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   VIET NAM-REQUEST BY UN SECRETARY GENERAL FOR CEASE FIRE
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. J. G. Diefenbaker (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, I have a supplementary question. I would ask the Prime Minister whether he was correctly reported to the effect that the suggestion by U Thant, referred to by the hon. member for Burnaby-Coquitlam, was unrealistic. Is that what he meant in the concluding words of the answer he has just given?

Topic:   MR. JUSTICE LANDREVILLE INQUIRY AS TO ACTION PROPOSED BY GOVERNMENT
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   VIET NAM-REQUEST BY UN SECRETARY GENERAL FOR CEASE FIRE
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LIB

Lester Bowles Pearson (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Mr. Pearson:

No, Mr. Speaker. The first report of the statement I saw was to the effect that without qualification or reservation of any kind there should be a unilateral cease fire on the part of United States forces. This seemed to me to be a cease fire on one side while the other side kept firing, not a very practicable suggestion. If there is a qualification to the effect that a cease fire should be maintained except against those forces that are continuing to fire, that is another matter and we are giving consideration to it.

Topic:   MR. JUSTICE LANDREVILLE INQUIRY AS TO ACTION PROPOSED BY GOVERNMENT
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   VIET NAM-REQUEST BY UN SECRETARY GENERAL FOR CEASE FIRE
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NDP

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

New Democratic Party

Mr. Douglas:

A further supplementary question. May I ask the Prime Minister, since he has looked at the text, whether that text does not include the words "only to fire if fired upon", and would that not answer the question that has been posed?

Topic:   MR. JUSTICE LANDREVILLE INQUIRY AS TO ACTION PROPOSED BY GOVERNMENT
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   VIET NAM-REQUEST BY UN SECRETARY GENERAL FOR CEASE FIRE
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LIB

Lester Bowles Pearson (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Mr. Pearson:

Mr. Speaker, it was not in the

report that I saw initially. In any event I think those words should be clarified before a decision can be reached.

Topic:   MR. JUSTICE LANDREVILLE INQUIRY AS TO ACTION PROPOSED BY GOVERNMENT
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   VIET NAM-REQUEST BY UN SECRETARY GENERAL FOR CEASE FIRE
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NDP

Francis Andrew Brewin

New Democratic Party

Mr. Andrew Brewin (Greenwood):

Mr. Speaker, may I address a supplementary question to the Secretary of State for External Affairs. In view of the tremendous urgency in this matter, and the danger of escalation, would the secretary of state discuss with the chairman of our committee on external affairs an early meeting of the committee, at which time the committee could go into this very urgent matter?

Topic:   MR. JUSTICE LANDREVILLE INQUIRY AS TO ACTION PROPOSED BY GOVERNMENT
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   VIET NAM-REQUEST BY UN SECRETARY GENERAL FOR CEASE FIRE
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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Hon. Paul Martin (Secretary of Stale for External Affairs):

I have already done that, Mr. Speaker, and I understand that the meeting is to be called on Tuesday next.

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Inquiries of the Ministry INQUIRY AS TO EXTENSION OF REPRESENTATION IN PACIFIC AREA

On the orders of the day:

Topic:   MR. JUSTICE LANDREVILLE INQUIRY AS TO ACTION PROPOSED BY GOVERNMENT
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   VIET NAM-REQUEST BY UN SECRETARY GENERAL FOR CEASE FIRE
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SC

Howard Earl Johnston

Social Credit

Mr. Howard Johnston (Okanagan-Revel-sloke):

Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Secretary of State for External Affairs. Now that Canadian diplomatic representation in eastern Europe has been increased I should like to ask whether the government is giving consideration to increasing its representation in the Pacific region. I could name some of the countries where we are not represented, or where our representation is shared. This is a region where Canadian trade interests are of great and increasing importance. I am sure that Canadians, particularly in the western provinces, would like to know whether efforts will be made to increase our representation in that area.

Topic:   MR. JUSTICE LANDREVILLE INQUIRY AS TO ACTION PROPOSED BY GOVERNMENT
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   VIET NAM-REQUEST BY UN SECRETARY GENERAL FOR CEASE FIRE
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LIB

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order. This is a question of a very general nature; it does not appear to me to be of extreme urgency.

Topic:   MR. JUSTICE LANDREVILLE INQUIRY AS TO ACTION PROPOSED BY GOVERNMENT
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   VIET NAM-REQUEST BY UN SECRETARY GENERAL FOR CEASE FIRE
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On the orders of the day:


PC

Marcel Joseph Aimé Lambert

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Marcel Lambert (Edmonton West):

My question is directed to the Secretary of State for External Affairs. Would the minister advise the house whether Canada was apprised beforehand of the agreement apparently reached among the governments of the United States, the United Kingdom and West Germany with regard to a serious reduction of forces in West Germany by both the United States and Britain? If so, what is the attitude of the Canadian government toward this agreement? Has Canada signified any intention to follow a similar course in the future?

Topic:   MR. JUSTICE LANDREVILLE INQUIRY AS TO ACTION PROPOSED BY GOVERNMENT
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   WEST GERMANY-REPORTED PROPOSAL TO REDUCE ALLIED FORCES
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