October 21, 1966

TABLING OF MINUTES OF MEETING OF INTERNAL ECONOMY COMMISSION

LIB

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

May I be permitted to lay before the house an extract from the minutes of a meeting of the commissioners of internal economy, in English and in French, held on October 18, 1966, relating to salary revisions affecting a number of positions in the House of Commons.

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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

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STANDING ORDERS


Third report of standing committee on standing orders, in both French and English-Mr. Asselin (Richmond-Wolfe).


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MR. WINCH-DAMAGE TO CENTRE BLOCK FROM BLASTING OPERATIONS

NDP

Harold Edward Winch

New Democratic Party

Mr. Harold E. Winch (Vancouver East):

desire to rise on a question of privilege, which Your Honour may consider a grievance. It is a matter which in my estimation is of concern to all members of the House of Commons, to members of the other place and, I would think, to all citizens of Canada. With your gracious permission, Mr. Speaker, I should like to make a brief statement explaining why I rise.

We all love this House of Commons building. We would not want to see it destroyed or hurt. It so happens that of necessity certain construction work has to take place in the grounds. That work requires boring through rock, and the use of explosives is therefore demanded.

[DOT] (11:10 a.m.)

Yesterday afternoon, sir, while we were sitting in this House of Commons, there were a number of explosions during construction work. One was fantastically heavy, so heavy, sir, that it reverberated in this house. As one who knows something about construction, that concerned me very much. I have made a

check and, sir, damage is being done to our House of Commons because of the strength of the charges. Already plaster is being cracked in our building but, sir, more than plaster-

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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh.

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NDP

Harold Edward Winch

New Democratic Party

Mr. Winch:

-because of the major charge that was set off yesterday. Sir, I am talking about the construction work outside, not the discussions in the house.

Because of what happened yesterday, followed by the minor explosions, the Peace Tower has sustained damage. This morning, sir, because of my concern with this matter I visited the Peace Tower and found that cracks had appeared in our most beautiful Memorial Chamber and material of a major nature had fallen. I, sir, have with me now, and I shall send through you to the Minister of Public Works (Mr. Mcllraith), what I picked up in our Memorial Chamber this morning.

I raise this question, sir, because I think it is of paramount importance. Through you to the Minister of Public Works I make an appeal, on behalf of our beautiful parliament building, that it be made clear, to the contractors that while we understand the necessity of explosions, we request that they reduce the major explosions to larger minor ones so as not to endanger our buildings and structures.

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Some hon. Members:

Hear, hear.

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NDP

Harold Edward Winch

New Democratic Party

Mr. Winch:

I know, sir, that on a matter of privilege or grievance I should move a motion, but I feel certain that after drawing it to your attention in this way, and through you to the attention of the Minister of Public Works, immediate action will be taken and therefore it will not be necessary that I move a motion.

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Some hon. Members:

Hear, hear.

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George James McIlraith (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Hon. G. J. Mcllraith (Minister of Public Works):

Mr. Speaker, I do not know that this is a question of privilege, but I believe it would be the wish of hon. members if I were to treat the statement that has been made as a question and explain exactly what are the facts, because I think they are of interest to all members.

October 21, 1966

Question of Privilege

This morning it was discovered that there had been some disturbance in the Memorial Chamber-

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NDP

Harold Edward Winch

New Democratic Party

Mr. Winch:

Disturbance? May I send you over what I picked up?

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George James McIlraith (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Mcllrailh:

-some disturbance in the Memorial Chamber ol the Peace Tower.

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John George Diefenbaker (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

What does the minister mean by disturbance?

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George James McIlraith (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Mcllrailh:

I shall explain that in a moment. Immediately the appropriate authorities were called in, the appropriate engineer in the building and engineers from the Department of Public Works. When the structural engineer and mechanical engineer from the department arrived on the scene they discovered that the material that had been displaced could not be found, nor could it be obtained from the cleaning staff-

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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh.

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NDP

Harold Edward Winch

New Democratic Party

Mr. Winch:

How come I was able to find it in the Memorial Chamber?

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October 21, 1966