October 19, 1966

HOUSE OF COMMONS DEBATES

OFFICIAL REPORT


23033-560£


ROGER DUHAMEL, F.R.S.C. QUEEN'S PRINTER AND CONTROLLER OF STATIONERY OTTAWA, 1966


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Wednesday, October 19, 1966


PUBLIC ACCOUNTS


Fifth report of standing committee on public accounts-Mr. Hales.


POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT

TABLING OF REPORT ON WORKING CONDITIONS

LIB

Joseph Julien Jean-Pierre Côté (Postmaster General)

Liberal

Hon. Jean-Pierre Cote (Postmaster General):

Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to table copies, in French and English, of the report of the royal commission on working conditions in the Post Office Department.

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NDP

Stanley Howard Knowles (N.D.P. House Leader; Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Explain.

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LIB

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Has the Postmaster General leave to table this report?

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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

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QUESTIONS


(Questions answered orally are indicated by an asterisk.)


ARMED SERVICES SAVINGS THROUGH INTEGRATION

PC

Mr. Forrestall

Progressive Conservative

1. Have there been net savings achieved by integration of the armed services in terms of dollars during the years 1965-66 and 1966-67?

2. What is the forecast net savings for 1966-67 and 1967-68?

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LIB

Léo Alphonse Joseph Cadieux (Associate Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Hon. Leo Cadieux (Associate Minister of National Defence):

1 and 2. (a) Steps were taken subsequent to July 1964 to integrate headquarters' staffs and services and to consolidate bases in order to achieve reductions in manpower and consequent savings in operating and maintenance costs. It is not possible to relate in detail specific savings in terms of dollars to a particular fiscal year due to the time lapse involved for the necessary reorganization subsequent to actual decisions being taken. Moreover, the closing of

individual bases as part of the base consolidation program requires additional expenditures to provide for the relocation of personnel and equipment and in consequence the full reductions in operating and maintenance costs cannot be realized immediately.

(b) Savings already achieved through the integration of headquarters and services since July 1964 include: Headquarters, a reduction of 26 per cent in staff; Training, a reduction of 13 per cent in staff; Recruiting, a reduction of 33 per cent in staff; Information services, a reduction of 60 per cent in staff; Construction engineering, a reduction of 45 per cent in staff; Cataloguing section material command, a reduction of 26 per cent in staff; Canadian staff London, a reduction of 44 per cent in staff; Canadian staff Washington, a reduction of 34 per cent in staff.

(c) Despite increased costs of materials, supplies and services generally, actual expenditures for 1965-66 compared to 1964-65 show a net saving of $12 million.

(d) It is forecast that additional savings due to integration in 1966-67 will not be sufficient to compensate entirely for continuing increased costs including the general military pay increase effective 1 October, 1966.

(e) The 1967-68 annual estimates have not been submitted to parliament yet.

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TAX EXEMPT GIFT OF REAL PROPERTY

October 19, 1966