January 24, 1966

PRIVILEGE

MR. GREGOIRE-STATEMENT MADE IN HOUSE ALLEGED TO HAVE BEEN ALTERED

RA

Gilles Grégoire

Ralliement Créditiste

Mr. Gilles Gregoire (Lapointe):

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a question of privilege concerning the right of members to receive in Hansard as faithful as possible a report of the debates taking place in this house.

While speaking on the address in reply to the speech from the throne, the right hon. Leader of the Opposition (Mr. Diefenbaker) stated that, under his government, no death sentence had been commuted without a recommendation for mercy from the court.

Mr. Speaker, I was present when the Leader of the Opposition made his speech and I distinctly heard him make that statement. Other members, with whom I have checked since, also heard him. In addition, in its January 21 issue the Globe and Mail published the statement we heard as having been made by the Leader of the Opposition.

On the other hand, in his speech, the right hon. Prime Minister (Mr. Pearson) replied rather formally to that statement, as reported on page 70, right-hand column, of the French version of Hansard.

Now, upon reading the speech of the Leader of the Opposition on the question of capital punishment, on pages 52 and 53 of Hansard, there is no trace of the statement made by the Leader of the Opposition, as a result of which the Prime Minister's reply no longer makes sense.

Under the circumstances, I feel it would be advisable to prevent any such errors of transcription in the future, more especially as the Leader of the Opposition had protested indignantly in the past against such incorrect reports, particularly in a speech made by the present Minister of Forestry (Mr. Sauve), as well as in another made by the former minister of finance, now the member for Davenport (Mr. Gordon).

Hence, Mr. Speaker, I should like to move, seconded by the hon. member for Compton-Frontenac (Mr. Latulippe):

That the matter of irregularities or mistakes in transcription in the official report of the speech

made by the leader of the official opposition on January 20, 1966 in the House of Commons, be referred to the committee on privileges and elections.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. GREGOIRE-STATEMENT MADE IN HOUSE ALLEGED TO HAVE BEEN ALTERED
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LIB

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order. I would call the attention of the hon. member for Lapointe to paragraph 5, citation 104 of Beauchesne's Parliamentary Rules and Forms, 4th Edition, under which the Speaker must be satisfied that there is a prima facie case of privilege.

Obviously, an important question was raised by the hon. member. On the other hand, there may be an easy or plausible explanation for what the hon. member for Lapointe has mentioned. I would suggest that for the time being, we let the motion stand, until the Speaker can study the official report and render his decision, unless the hon. Leader of the Opposition cares to comment immediately, which would make it easier for the Speaker-

[DOT] (11:10 ajn.)

Does the Leader of the Opposition wish to comment at this time on the motion which has been proposed? The motion is not before the house, but it will be taken into consideration by the Chair. However, perhaps the right hon. gentleman might care to comment briefly.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. GREGOIRE-STATEMENT MADE IN HOUSE ALLEGED TO HAVE BEEN ALTERED
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. J. G. Diefenbaker (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, does your ruling mean that I cannot answer at this time? If so, that is perfectly all right with me. I would simply point out that the English edition at page 52 entirely covers the situation as it took place and that I in no way made any change or any alteration whatsoever. I would also say to the hon. member for Lapointe that with his usual lack of courtesy he did not let me know that this was coming up.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. GREGOIRE-STATEMENT MADE IN HOUSE ALLEGED TO HAVE BEEN ALTERED
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LIB

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

In view of the comments made by the Leader of the Opposition I suggest that there is no question of privilege. Hon. members will, I am sure, be satisfied with the statement made by the Leader of the Opposition. There may be a clerical error, but nothing more than that. I therefore declare there is no question of privilege.

January 24, 1966

Proposed Legislation ESTIMATES, 1965-66

A message from His Excellency the Governor General transmitting main and supplementary estimates for the financial year ending March 31, 1966, was presented by Hon. E. J. Benson (for the Minister of Finance) and read by Mr. Speaker to the House.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. GREGOIRE-STATEMENT MADE IN HOUSE ALLEGED TO HAVE BEEN ALTERED
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FAIR WAGES AND HOURS OF LABOUR ACT

AMENDMENTS RESPECTING HOURS OF WORK, RATES OF PAY, ETC.

LIB

John Robert (Jack) Nicholson (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Hon. J. R. Nicholson (Minister of Labour) moved

for leave to introduce Bill No. C-2, to amend the Fair Wages and Hours of Labour Act.

Topic:   FAIR WAGES AND HOURS OF LABOUR ACT
Subtopic:   AMENDMENTS RESPECTING HOURS OF WORK, RATES OF PAY, ETC.
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?

Some hon. Members:

Explain.

Topic:   FAIR WAGES AND HOURS OF LABOUR ACT
Subtopic:   AMENDMENTS RESPECTING HOURS OF WORK, RATES OF PAY, ETC.
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LIB

John Robert (Jack) Nicholson (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. Nicholson:

Mr. Speaker, hon. members will recall that in answer to a question put to me a few days ago, whether amendments would be introduced to the Fair Wages and Hours of Labour Act during this session, I assured the house that the matter was under study and that a resolution or legislation would be laid before the house at an early date. This bill is to implement certain assurances given by my predecessor during the debate on the Labour Standards Code during the last parliament.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

Topic:   FAIR WAGES AND HOURS OF LABOUR ACT
Subtopic:   AMENDMENTS RESPECTING HOURS OF WORK, RATES OF PAY, ETC.
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BANK ACT AND QUEBEC SAVINGS BANKS ACT

EXTENSION OF CHARTERS TO DECEMBER 1, 1966

LIB

Mitchell William Sharp (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Hon. Mitchell Sharp (Minister of Finance) moved

for leave to introduce Bill No. C-3, to amend the Bank Act and the Quebec Savings Banks Act.

Topic:   BANK ACT AND QUEBEC SAVINGS BANKS ACT
Subtopic:   EXTENSION OF CHARTERS TO DECEMBER 1, 1966
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Some hon. Members:

Explain.

Topic:   BANK ACT AND QUEBEC SAVINGS BANKS ACT
Subtopic:   EXTENSION OF CHARTERS TO DECEMBER 1, 1966
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LIB

Lucien Lamoureux (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

The Minister of Finance.

Topic:   BANK ACT AND QUEBEC SAVINGS BANKS ACT
Subtopic:   EXTENSION OF CHARTERS TO DECEMBER 1, 1966
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LIB

Mitchell William Sharp (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Sharp:

I regret my slowness in rising, Mr. Speaker. This is Monday morning, and sometimes I forget my portfolio has been changed.

Topic:   BANK ACT AND QUEBEC SAVINGS BANKS ACT
Subtopic:   EXTENSION OF CHARTERS TO DECEMBER 1, 1966
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PC

Michael Starr (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Starr:

You are not the only one.

Topic:   BANK ACT AND QUEBEC SAVINGS BANKS ACT
Subtopic:   EXTENSION OF CHARTERS TO DECEMBER 1, 1966
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LIB

Mitchell William Sharp (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Sharp:

However, I am learning. The purpose of this bill is very simple. It is to extend the charters of the existing banks, which would otherwise expire within the next few weeks. It is also the intention of the government to bring forward as soon as possible substantial amendments to the Bank Act, which will follow in due course.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

Topic:   BANK ACT AND QUEBEC SAVINGS BANKS ACT
Subtopic:   EXTENSION OF CHARTERS TO DECEMBER 1, 1966
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BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

January 24, 1966