1. What is the total number of inmates in federal penitentiaries as of the last date for which the annual report was prepared?

2. What is the total staff employed in these penitentiaries and, of these, how many are guards, teachers, psychologists, psychiatrists, etc.?

3. What qualifications are required for the professional staff?

4. What are the minimum qualifications for guards employed in penitentiaries?

5. Is there a compulsory training course for people hired as guards and, if so, what type of course, and how long does it take to complete this course?

6. How many penitentiaries are there in Canada?

Mr. D. S. Macdonald (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of Justice):

1. On the 31st March 1965, there were 7,518 inmates in federal penitentiaries.

2. The total staff employed in federal penitentiaries, excluding Penitentiary Headquar-

ters in Ottawa, number 3,223, classified as follows:

Staff Strength as at 31 March 1965

Executive and Administrative 108

Division, Organization & Administration Personnel Officers 10

Staff Training Officers 31

Clerks & Stenographers 264

Division, Inmate Training

Custody (Correctional Officers) 1,542

Vocational Training (Vocational

Instructors) 99

Educational (Teachers) 26

Classification & Psychological

(Psychologists) 11

(Classification Officers) 54

Recreation (Inmate Training Officers) 58 Spiritual (Chaplains) 19

Medical

(Psychiatrist, Part Time) 3

(Psychiatrist, 5 on contract) -

(Physician, Full Time) 1

(Physician, 9 on contract) -

(Dentist, Part Time) 5

(Dentist, 4 on contract) -

(Hospital Officers, Assistant

Hospital Dental Technicians) 119

Division, Services & Supplies Financial Services (Accountants,

Bookkeepers) 101

Purchasing & Stores (Storekeepers,

Storemen) 62

Farms (Farm Managers, Asst. Farm Managers, Herdsmen, Fieldmen, etc.) 75

Food Services (Stewards) 98

Works (Tradesmen) 178

Utilities (Stationary Engineers,

Service Plant Operators) 131

Institutional Services (Tradesmen,

drivers, garage) 66

Division, Industries

Industrial Instructors (Tradesmen) 162

Grand Total 3,223

3. The qualifications required for the professional staff are:

Psychologist 1: Graduation from a university of recognized standing, with a Bachelor's degree in psychology, plus 3 years' suitable experience. Candidates with all requirements for an M.A. degree in psychology less thesis are eligible for appointment to this grade without the experience requirement.

Psychologist 2: Graduation from a university of recognized standing with a Master's degree in psychology.

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Psychologist 3: Graduation from a university of recognized standing with a Master's degree in psychology, plus 2 years' responsible professional experience; OR completion of all requirements for a Ph.D. degree in psychology less thesis.

Psychologist 4: Graduation from a university of recognized standing with a Ph.D. in psychology; OR a Master's degree in psychology plus 5 years' responsible professional experience.

Classification Officer 1: High school graduation (Grade XII or Grade XI, depending on province) plus a minimum of 3 years' experience in interviewing, social work, welfare, or equivalent similar experience; OR graduation from a university of recognized standing, with a general B.A.

Classification Officer 2: High school graduation (Grade XII or Grade XI, depending on province) plus a minimum of 3 years' experience in interviewing, social work, welfare, etc., plus at least three years as a Classification Officer 1 or equivalent similar experience; OR graduation from a university of recognized standing with a general B.A. degree, plus three years as a Classification Officer 1, or equivalent experience.

Classification Officer 3: Graduation from a university of recognized standing with a postgraduate degree or diploma in criminology, social work, education or sociology; OR at least three years' experience as a Classification Officer 2 plus successful completion of an examination to determine suitability and *equivalent qualifications.

Classification Officer 4: Graduation from a university of recognized standing with a postgraduate degree or diploma in criminology, social work, education, or sociology plus 5 years' suitable related experience.

Classification Officer 5: Graduation from a university of recognized standing with a postgraduate degree or diploma in criminology, social work, education, or sociology plus 8 years of relevant experience including at least 2 years of relevant administrative and supervisory experience.

Teachers: The qualifications required from teachers employed in the Service relate favourably with those required from teachers seeking employment in the various provinces of Canada. The Service pay levels for teachers are based on a combination of qualifications and years of experience.

Other professionals: Doctors, psychiatrists and dentists are normally on a contract basis, with each contract requiring approval by the Treasury Board.

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4. The minimum qualifications for guards employed in penitentiaries are: Age: 21 to 40 years of age; Education: Grade 10 or equivalent; Height: 5' 6"; Weight: Appropriate for height and built; Physical Fitness: To meet the Service physical standard for undertaking a rigorous Induction Training Course of 9 weeks, involving periods in self-defence training.

5. All persons hired as guards are required to complete satisfactorily an Induction Training Course of not less than 9 weeks in duration; this course must be completed within the first year of service while the new recruit is still on probation.

6. There are 26 penitentiaries in Canada.

1. In the last fiscal year, what percentage of federal government spending was devoted to (a) per capita grants for higher education (b) social welfare measures (c) defence?

2. What changes in the percentages are estimated for the current fiscal year?

Mr. L. T. Pennell (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of Finance):

The answer to part 1 is as follows:

(a) 0.4 per cent, (b) 21.0 per cent, (c) 22.0 per cent. These percentages are based on the latest published figures as set out in the Budget Papers 1965-66 which were tabled April 12, 1965.

The answer to part 2 is as follows:

(a) No change, (b) minus 2.0 per cent, (c) minus 1.0 per cent. The percentage in 2(b) is

based on the expectation that Quebec will contract out of certain shared-cost programs. This item would have read "no change" had Quebec not chosen to contract out.

1. When did the Department of Justice discontinue the practice of asking for competitive bids from automobile agencies when purchasing R.C.M.P. cars?

2. When did the Department of Justice commence purchasing such cars direct from the manufacturers and is it the intention of the Department to continue this direct purchase policy?

Hon. C. M. Drury (Minister of Industry):

The answer to the first part is, when Treasury Board issued a directive on December 29, 1964, instructing the Department of Defence Production to procure vehicles on behalf of the R.C.M.P. from the vehicle manufacturers.

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The answer to the second part of the question is, it is the intention of the Department of Justice to follow the procedure referred to in part I.

1. How many loans have been made under the National Housing Act part VI B assented to December 2, 1960, loans for municipal sewage treatment projects?

2. What is the total amount of loans?

3. What is the total amount for each of the following years 1961, 1962, 1963 and 1964?

4. What is the total amount of reduction to date of the indebtedness of these loans under the forgiveness clause?

Hon. J. R. Nicholson (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration):

1. To March 31, 1965, net loans approved under the National Housing Act, Part VI B, for Municipal Sewage Treatment Projects, totalled 783.

2. The total amount of net loans approved was $150.7 million. Of this, $97.0 million had been advanced.

3. The net amounts of loans approved annually were:

Amount

Year ($ millions)

1961 39.5

1962 43.4

1963 35.9

1964 26.2

1965 (Jan.-Mar.) 5.8

4. The reduction of indebtedness under the forgiveness clause to March 31, 1965, was $24.4 million.

1. How many loans have been made in the Province of Manitoba under the National Housing Act, amendment Part VI B assented to December 2, 1960, loans for municipal sewage treatment projects?

2. What is the total amount of these loans?

3. What is the total amount to date of the reduction of the indebtedness under the forgiveness clause of these loans?

4. What projects have been approved in Manitoba, giving date of approval, name of municipality and amount of loan?

Hon. J. R. Nicholson (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration):

1. To March 31, 1965, net loans approved in the Province of Manitoba under the National Housing Act, Part VI B, for Municipal Sewage Treatment Projects, totalled 66.

2. The total amount of net loans approved was $15.0 million. Of this, $4.0 million had

been advanced.

3. In the Province of Manitoba, the reduction of indebtedness under the forgiveness clause to March 31st, 1965, was $1.0 million.

4. N.H.A. Loans Approved in Manitoba for Municipal Sewage Treatment Projects

1961-March 31st, 1965 (B

Date of Amount of Loan

Municipality Approval $000Beausejour May, 1962 8Brandon March, 1964 49April, 1964 140May, 1964 774Cartwright June, 1962 28Crystal November, 1961 16Dauphin May, 1962 128Deloraine July, 1962 40Elkhorn May, 1963 32Erickson May, 1962 14Gilbert Plains November, 1963 20Gimli May, 1964 18September, 1964 19Gladstone October, 1964 9Grandview July, 1964 43Gretna June, 1961 37Hamiota August, 1962 27Harrison August, 1964 23Hartney August, 1961 13Lac du Bonnet August, 1963 44Lorne- Swan Lake November, 1962 21MacGregor August, 1963 44Melita October, 1964 8Miniota October, 1964 9Morden April, 1961 27Neepawa October, 1962 14Oak Lake November, 1962 26Pilot Mound August, 1963 29Portage la Prairie May, 1961 93R.M. of Pipestone September, 1962 25R.M. of Strathclair May, 1964 21R.M. of Thompson November, 1963 22R.M. of Victoria November, 1963 21Rossburn September, 1963 34Ste. Anne October, 1964 30St. Pierre October, 1962 35Ste Rose du Lac October 1963 39Shoal Lake June, 1961 32Somerset November, 1961 21Treherne November, 1962 18

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Date of Amount of Loan

Municipality Approval $000Winnipeg January, 1963 74May, 1963 164June, 1963 13May, 1964 12November, 1964 80January, 1965 48Winnipeg- Charleswood October, 1962 163February, 1963 108July, 1963 523August, 1963 383October, 1963 87October, 1963 15October, 1963 253December, 1963 156January, 1964 492Winnipeg- Fort Garry April, 1964 92Winnipeg- North End June, 1963 4,471July, 1963 280September, 1963 177October, 1963 152October, 1963 4,727Winnipeg- St. James August, 1963 56October, 1963 116October, 1963 75November, 1963 176Winnipeg- Beach April, 1962 34TOTAL 14,978(!) Data are net of cancellation, etc.

1. What is the number of staff employed at the Indian Hospital, Fort Qu'Appelle, Saskatchewan?

2. What is the number of professional employees (doctors, nurses, etc.) and number of non-professional employees (waitresses, housekeepers, etc.) ?

3. What are the rates of pay for (a) doctors (b) nurses (c) dietitians (d) laboratory technicians (e) radiological technicians?

4. What are the rates of pay for (a) cooks (b) waitresses (c) housekeepers (d) housemaids (e) auxiliary nurses?

5. Is there any discrepancy between wages paid to employees of the Indian Hospital and wages paid to employees in similar institutions?

6. Are any of the rates of pay listed below standards set by the provincial minimum wage regulations?

7. Have any representations been made to the Department of National Health and Welfare regarding integration of hospital facilities at Fort Qu'Appelle, Saskatchewan and, if so, by whom?

Hon. Judy V. LaMarsh (Minister of National Health and Welfare):

1. 118.

2. Professional employees, 27; non-professional employees, 91.

3. (a) Medical Officer 1 $10,100 to $11,000; Medical Officer 2 $11,100 to $i3,100; Medical Officer 3 $12,600 to $15,100; Medical Officer 4 $14,600 to $16,100.

(b) Graduate Nurse 1 $3,750 to $4,800; Graduate Nurse 2 $4,590 to $5,040; Graduate Nurse 3 $5,100 to $5,640.

(c) Dietitian 1 $4,200 to $4,920; Dietitian 2 $5,160 to $5,880.

(d) Technician 1 (Hospital Lab), $3,420 to $3,720; Technician 2 (Hospital Lab), $3,720 to $4,170; Technician 3 (Hospital Lab), $4,250 to $4,700; Technician 4 (Hospital Lab), $4,920 to $5,460.

(e) Technician 1 X-Ray, $3,420 to $3,720; Technician 2 X-Ray, $3,600 to $4,050; Technician 3 X-Ray $4,490 to $4,940; Technician 4 X-Ray, $5,460 to $6,060.

4. (a) Hospital Cook 1, $2,900 to $3,200; Hospital Cook 2, $3,350 to $3,800; Hospital Cook 3, $3,730 to $4,180.

(b) Housemaid 1, $1.00 per hour; Housemaid 2, $1.06 per hour; Housemaid 3, $1.13 per hour.

(c) same as (b).

(d) same as (b).

(e) Ward Aide 1, $195 per month; Ward Aide 2, $205 per month; Ward Aide 3, $215 per month.

5. Wage rates paid to employees who are subject to the Civil Service Act are approved by the Treasury Board on the basis of recommendations of the Pay Research Bureau which conducts periodic wage surveys for the classes concerned. Rates paid to employees in the prevailing rate category are approved by the Treasury Board on the basis of wage surveys conducted by the Department of Labour and therefore reflect rates paid in similar institutions in the area.

6. All rates paid are above the minimum provincial standards.

7. The only other hospital facility in the immediate vicinity is Fort San. While the working relationship between the two institutions has been traditionally good, there has not been any formal representation for closer integration.

1. How many applications for grants to finance research projects did the Department of National

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Health and Welfare get in each of the past three years?

2. What was the total dollar-value of the projects requested from the Department of National Health and Welfare?

3. How many of the applications made to the Department of National Health and Welfare were approved in full?

4. How many of the applications were approved in part only?

5. How many applications for research grants were turned down in each of the last three years?

6. What were the reasons for the refusals?

Hon. Judy V. LaMarsh (Minister of National Health and Welfare):

The following information relates to applications received by the Department of National Health and Welfare for grants under the National Health Grants program to finance research projects:

1. 2. 3. 4. 5*1962-63 364 $4,489,102 191 101 701963-64 370 4,665,989 176 85 1061964-65 353 4,262,952 205 84 576. Research projects do not receive approval as submitted under the National Health Grants when they exceed the funds allocated for this purpose and when they are considered by appraisers, consultants and advisory committees to be poorly designed or for unsound research.

*A few projects were cancelled or altered at the request of the researchers or their sponsoring Provinces.