April 1, 1965

DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION


Id. Departmental administration. $24,500.


PC

Erik Nielsen

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Nielsen:

Just one question, Mr. Chairman. I do not expect an answer tonight but I should like the President of the Privy Council to give me an undertaking that we will have the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration write me a letter within a week, say, giving me the reasons for the dropping of the charge against Joe Bonanno. I understand he was charged with an offence under the Citizenship Act and the charge was dropped. If the minister would write me a letter within five or seven days giving the reasons for dropping the charge I will be happy.

Topic:   INTERIM SUPPLY
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION
Permalink
LIB

George James McIlraith (President of the Privy Council; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Mcllraiih:

Mr. Chairman, I do not know whether I can give an undertaking in that form, but I will certainly see that the point which is raised is drawn to the minister's attention and the information provided. But I do not know if I can give an undertaking that he will write a letter within five days. I do not know whether the minister's office runs more smoothly than mine, but I do hope the hon. member will not insist on that.

Topic:   INTERIM SUPPLY
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION
Permalink
PC

Erik Nielsen

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Nielsen:

I am sure it runs more smoothly now than it did, but as long as the minister says that the information will be provided, I will be happy.

13075

Supply-Citizenship and Immigration

Topic:   INTERIM SUPPLY
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION
Permalink
NDP

Harold Edward Winch

New Democratic Party

Mr. Winch:

I have one question, although one could speak a long time on this estimate. My question is directed to the government house leader and President of the Privy Council. In the House of Commons we have a comparatively new Minister of Citizenship and Immigration, but there is no basic difference between the latest pronouncements of this minister and his four predecessors going back over seven years. Each and every one starts out by saying their major concern is to bring in a revised citizenship and immigration act. Five ministers in a row have said their top priority is a new amended act. Can the government house leader give us an assurance, a commitment, that we will not have to say in the next session: "Blessed are those who run around in circles because they shall be known as big wheels"? Are we having early next session a revised citizenship and immigration act?

Topic:   INTERIM SUPPLY
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION
Permalink
LIB

George James McIlraith (President of the Privy Council; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Mcllraiih:

I do not think the hon. member really wants me to anticipate the throne speech. It would not be wise for me to make any remarks which would indicate what may or may not be in that speech, but I would hope to have that information very quickly.

Topic:   INTERIM SUPPLY
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION
Permalink
NDP

Harold Edward Winch

New Democratic Party

Mr. Winch:

May I point out that this measure has been mentioned in throne speech after throne speech, but we have yet to see a new act. If it is in the throne speech next week I hope it will be acted upon and that the government will fulfil what is promised.

Topic:   INTERIM SUPPLY
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION
Permalink

Item agreed to. ImmigrationlOd. Administration, operation and maintenance including trans-oeeanic and inland transportation and other assistance for immigrants and settlers subject to the approval of treasury board, including care en route and while awaiting employment: and payments to the provinces, pursuant to agreements entered into, with the approval of the governor in council, in respect of expenses incurred by the provinces for indigent immigrants, $418,000.


NDP

Frank Howard

New Democratic Party

Mr. Howard:

Mr. Chairman, at the conclusion of the Department of Citizenship and Immigration estimates perhaps we might call it ten o'clock.

Topic:   INTERIM SUPPLY
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION
Permalink
LIB

Lucien Lamoureux (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

The Chairman:

Is vote lOd carried? [Translation]

Topic:   INTERIM SUPPLY
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION
Permalink
RA

Gérard Perron

Ralliement Créditiste

Mr. Perron:

I have a question. There is an nem here for $294,000 for trans-oceanic and inland transportation of immigrants and settlers and other assistance.

Is the minister in a position to tell us whether this vote includes the transportation costs, as it was announced nearly a year ago,

13076 HOUSE OF COMMONS

Supply-Citizenship and Immigration in connection with the Algerians who were to settle particularly in the province of Quebec?

I would like to know if this vote involves this group of immigrants, namely, the number of Algerian families who settled in Canada. Has a part of these estimates been allocated to this group of immigrants? Where did they settle?

Topic:   INTERIM SUPPLY
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION
Permalink
LIB

George James McIlraith (President of the Privy Council; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Mcllrailh:

The main feature of this item, Mr. Chairman, is represented by the additional promotional activity. I am afraid the information the hon. member has asked for is not available to me at this time, but I will be pleased to undertake to ask the minister to provide that information in respect of Algerian farmers.

Topic:   INTERIM SUPPLY
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION
Permalink
RA

Gérard Perron

Ralliement Créditiste

Mr. Perron:

Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask another question of the hon. minister concerning immigration.

In view of the fact that as far as I know, in my own district, we pay the moving costs of families who at present are unemployed due to the termination of mining activities in the Megantic district and elsewhere and who wish to migrate to the United States in order to find employment, will this vote allow Canadian citizens to go elsewhere than to the United States? Changes of abode are being mentioned, but it is not stated if this is effected merely in one direction, that is, respecting immigration. Does this vote also apply toward the expenditures or travelling expenses and assistance respecting persons who wish to emigrate?

This is the question I would like to ask: Does this item providing for the admission of immigrants in this country include amounts for assisting persons who wish to leave Canada and migrate to the United States?

Topic:   INTERIM SUPPLY
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION
Permalink
LIB

George James McIlraith (President of the Privy Council; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Mcllrailh:

No. Mr. Chairman, it does not include anything for those people. This is in respect of immigrants to be brought to Canada.

Topic:   INTERIM SUPPLY
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION
Permalink
PC

Edward Nasserden

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Nasserden:

Mr. Chairman, would the President of the Privy Council explain the reference in this vote to indigent immigrants?

Topic:   INTERIM SUPPLY
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION
Permalink
LIB

George James McIlraith (President of the Privy Council; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Mcllrailh:

Mr. Chairman, I do not see anything in the detail of this supplementary estimate in respect of indigent immigrants. This supplementary estimate follows the wording of the main vote, but there is nothing in the detail of it in respect of indigent immigrants. This item has relation to trans-

[Mr. Perron. 1

oceanic transport for immigrants, food, shelter and incidental expenses, but there is nothing in it in relation to indigents.

Topic:   INTERIM SUPPLY
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION
Permalink
PC

Edward Nasserden

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Nasserden:

I may be mistaken in my understanding, Mr. Chairman, but does the law not now provide in some way for individuals coming to Canada under a guarantee posted by someone else?

Topic:   INTERIM SUPPLY
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION
Permalink
NDP

Herbert Wilfred Herridge

New Democratic Party

Mr. Herridge:

Do you not know that it is ten o'clock?

Topic:   INTERIM SUPPLY
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION
Permalink
LIB

George James McIlraith (President of the Privy Council; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Mcllrailh:

I am afraid I did not hear the hon. member's question.

Topic:   INTERIM SUPPLY
Subtopic:   DEPARTMENT OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION
Permalink

April 1, 1965