February 18, 1965

PRIVILEGE

MR. PAUL-DECISION TO SIT AS INDEPENDENT MEMBER

IND

Rémi Paul

Independent

Mr. Remi Paul (Berthier-Maskinonge-Dela-naudiere):

With your permission, Mr. Speaker, I rise on a question of privilege to make a statement which might be of interest to all members of the house, especially my colleagues of Her Majesty's loyal opposition, and more particularly to the electors of my constituency of Berthier-Maskinonge-Dela-naudiere.

The moment I entered public life I stated that I wanted to be a member of the Conservative party as long as its policy was in keeping with the interests of my electors and likely to promote the development of the Canadian nation in the complete respect of the aspirations of one and all, even and especially if those aspirations concerned my French speaking compatriots, so that Canadians could live in that essential national unity which all men in public life must strive to establish and maintain.

In the past two months I have received quite clear and precise directives, with but a few exceptions, from many electors in my riding whom I met while the house was in recess, to the effect that I should dissociate myself from the present policy of the Conservative party.

I have every confidence in the Conservative party, one of the two great political parties which have left their mark on the life of the Canadian nation, and I refrain to enumerate all the achievements of this great political party which, at various times, legislated in the interest of the whole Canadian people.

Unfortunately that party is now controlled and directed by a single man. I therefore regret that I must leave the ranks, not of the Conservative party but of the Diefen-baker party. As of this day I shall sit in this house as an independent member, and shall continue to do so until the problem of the

leadership of the Conservative party has been solved satisfactorily. The solution of this problem will of necessity bring about a new trend in the policy of this party, which will be called upon to again play a leading role in Canadian history.

I want to be absolutely clear and well understood when I publicly state that I understand and approve the stand taken by the energetic leader of the Quebec wing of the Conservative party, the hon. member for Three Rivers (Mr. Balcer) and by the hon. member for Pontiac-Temiscamingue (Mr. Martineau) and all my colleagues from Quebec. By different means I wish to continue to work with them and with the many other Conservative members and friends toward a renovation of the structure of the party so as to give it a new life and to create again public confidence in the party by the choice of a new platform acceptable to all classes and consistent with the needs of the day and the aspirations of the people of Canada and of the province of Quebec.

I am sorry to leave my friends in the Conservative party but I feel that I am being faithful to my mandate and to the wishes of the electors of the great riding of Berthier-Maskinonge-Delanaudiere.

I sincerely hope that this separation will be a short one because I remain a strong supporter of the great Conservative party, although strongly against the Diefenbaker party, and I am hoping to become once again an active member of the Conservative party in the near future.

Mr. Speaker, I therefore request the privilege to sit elsewhere in this house.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. PAUL-DECISION TO SIT AS INDEPENDENT MEMBER
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Maurice Bourget (Speaker of the Senate)

Mr. Speaker:

The hon. member for Berthier-Maskinonge-Delanaudiere informed me of his decision before the start of this sitting and, at his request, I assigned him another seat which he may now occupy.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. PAUL-DECISION TO SIT AS INDEPENDENT MEMBER
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HEALTH AND WELFARE

TABLING OF SECOND VOLUME OF ROYAL COMMISSION REPORT

LIB

Lester Bowles Pearson (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Right Hon. L. B. Pearson (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, I have deposited with the Clerk

Introduction of Bills

oi the house for tabling today copies in English and in French of volume 2 of the royal commission on health services. Copies of the press release in English and in French are also being tabled.

Topic:   HEALTH AND WELFARE
Subtopic:   TABLING OF SECOND VOLUME OF ROYAL COMMISSION REPORT
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BRITISH NORTH AMERICA ACT

AMENDMENTS RESPECTING PROVINCIAL MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE LAWS

NDP

Robert William Prittie

New Democratic Party

Mr. R. W. Priitie (Burnaby-Richmond) moved

for leave to introduce Bill No. C-144, to amend the British North America Acts, 1867 to 1960 (provincial marriage and divorce laws).

Topic:   BRITISH NORTH AMERICA ACT
Subtopic:   AMENDMENTS RESPECTING PROVINCIAL MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE LAWS
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Some hon. Members:

Explain.

Topic:   BRITISH NORTH AMERICA ACT
Subtopic:   AMENDMENTS RESPECTING PROVINCIAL MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE LAWS
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NDP

Robert William Prittie

New Democratic Party

Mr. Prittie:

Mr. Speaker, the parliament of Canada has the exclusive power to legislate divorce reform, yet no government of Canada has brought the subject into the house for a free debate; no government has ever permitted a private member's public bill on the subject to come to a vote; no government has ever referred the subject to a select committee of parliament or to a royal commission for study and report. Politically, the attitude of Canadian governments is to ignore the existence of a grievance and to refuse to exercise the monopoly jurisdiction the federal authority possesses.

The purpose of this bill, therefore, is to give to the provinces original concurrent jurisdiction with Canada in the same way as the provinces and Canada share jurisdiction with respect to agriculture and immigration. The federal government thus retains legislative power to protect the rights of minorities in any province or to supersede provincial legislation by multiprovincial legislation. On the other hand, this bill will enable a province to opt out of a continuing federal legislative refusal to initiate divorce reform.

I feel that this bill is appropriate, Mr. Speaker, at a time when we are discussing opting out, and it ought to commend itself to all supporters of co-operative federalism.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

Topic:   BRITISH NORTH AMERICA ACT
Subtopic:   AMENDMENTS RESPECTING PROVINCIAL MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE LAWS
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PENITENTIARY ACT

AMENDMENT RESPECTING IMPRISONMENT OF OFFENDERS PENDING APPEALS

LIB

Guy Favreau (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Hon. Guy Favreau (Minister of Justice) moved

for leave to introduce Bill No. C-145, to amend the Penitentiary Act.

Topic:   PENITENTIARY ACT
Subtopic:   AMENDMENT RESPECTING IMPRISONMENT OF OFFENDERS PENDING APPEALS
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Some hon. Members:

Explain.

Topic:   PENITENTIARY ACT
Subtopic:   AMENDMENT RESPECTING IMPRISONMENT OF OFFENDERS PENDING APPEALS
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LIB

Guy Favreau (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. Favreau:

Mr. Speaker, the purpose of this legislation is to clarify the Penitentiary Act so as to provide that anyone who has been condemned to serve a prison term of two years or more will, if he appeals the sentence, be kept in a local or provincial jail pending the hearing of the appeal.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

Topic:   PENITENTIARY ACT
Subtopic:   AMENDMENT RESPECTING IMPRISONMENT OF OFFENDERS PENDING APPEALS
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INCOME TAX

IMPLEMENTATION AND AMENDMENT OF AGREEMENTS TO AVOID DOUBLE TAXATION

LIB

Walter Lockhart Gordon (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Hon. Walter L. Gordon (Minister of Finance) moved

for leave to introduce Bill No. C-146, to implement a convention between Canada and Japan for the avoidance of double taxation with respect to income tax and to amend the existing agreement and conventions between Canada and Denmark, Finland and the Netherlands, with respect to income tax.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

Topic:   INCOME TAX
Subtopic:   IMPLEMENTATION AND AMENDMENT OF AGREEMENTS TO AVOID DOUBLE TAXATION
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February 18, 1965