November 18, 1964

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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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Maurice Bourget (Speaker of the Senate)

Mr. Speaker:

It is so ordered.

The time for the question period has expired, but through a lapse of memory on my part I forgot to call the hon. member for York-Humber, who spoke to me some time ago and who would like to pose a question. So, with the consent of the house, I propose we have one more question.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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NDP

Frank Howard

New Democratic Party

Mr. Howard:

I rise on a point of order. When the proposal was made by the President of the Privy Council with respect to the business of the house for the remainder of this week and next week, both the hon. member for Winnipeg North Centre and I rose to make some comment about it, but you did not offer either of us the opportunity to make that comment indicating whether or not there was agreement with that proposal.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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J. Nicholas (Nick) Mandziuk

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Mandziuk:

But didn't you?

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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NDP

Stanley Howard Knowles (N.D.P. House Leader; Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker, I wonder whether I might be heard on the point, namely the suggestion that the house agree to the order which has been proposed by the leader of the house.

The statement that there was a meeting of the house leaders of the various parties this morning and that we gave favourable consideration to the program as outlined in the statement just made by the leader of the house is correct. Our party was concerned about one point, and I reported this back to the leader of the house. This one point had to do with the order of priority, after the estimates have been disposed of, as between the flag debate and the Canada labour code. An assurance was given to me that no decision was being taken on that question, that all we were agreeing to was the order of business until a week from Friday. There was no assurance that the Canada labour code would be brought forward, but neither was there any exclusion of the possibility of our still discussing with the government the fact that we might have it ahead of the flag debate. It was on the understanding that this matter was left open that I reported our agreement back to the house leader.

Obviously there is some concern in this party this afternoon because of the exchanges which have taken place. I can only say our agreement was conditional on there not being a decision at this point beyond what is actually set out in the statement made by

Inquiries of the Ministry the President of the Privy Council, namely that all we are agreeing to at this point is to spend the next seven days on estimates. The business for the rest of the session is left for further discussion.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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George James McIlraith (President of the Privy Council; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Mcllraiih:

That is correct, Mr. Speaker.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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NDP

Frank Howard

New Democratic Party

Mr. Howard:

The Prime Minister made some comments today bearing on the priority to be accorded to the other two items, and I do not think we should proceed now to make an agreement when it is only a halfhearted agreement and when the Prime Minister has in effect destroyed it.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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NDP

Frank Howard

New Democratic Party

Mr. Howard:

It would be far better, in my opinion, if the President of the Privy Council were to withhold his proposal until later in the day and allow further discussion to take place.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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Maurice Bourget (Speaker of the Senate)

Mr. Speaker:

As the Chair understands the situation, it is this. The President of the Privy Council read a statement which had been agreed to by the different parties and their representatives, a statement which I have in my hand. At the request of the leader of the house I asked whether it should be so ordered, and it was ordered.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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An hon. Member:

It was not ordered.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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Maurice Bourget (Speaker of the Senate)

Mr. Speaker:

As far as I understand it, that is the situation.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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NDP

Stanley Howard Knowles (N.D.P. House Leader; Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Knowles:

May I have confirmation from the Prime Minister that the statement I made a moment ago is correct, namely that no decision has been made as to the priority of house business beyond a week from Friday?

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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LIB

Lester Bowles Pearson (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Mr. Pearson:

Of course it is. The order covers only the business for next week. That is clear. No decision has been made as to what will be done after next week, one way or the other.

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Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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NDP

Frank Howard

New Democratic Party

Mr. Howard:

I do not want to be obstinate about it.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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Some hon. Members:

You are.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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NDP

Frank Howard

New Democratic Party

Mr. Howard:

But it is quite obvious that the government, because of its concern about this rag of a flag, is trying to make a sucker out of parliament.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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LIB

Paul Theodore Hellyer (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. Hellyer:

On a point of order, may I ask whether the order was passed by the house?

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CONSIDERATION OF LABOUR AND FLAG LEGISLATION, ESTIMATES, ETC.
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November 18, 1964