November 16, 1964

NORTHERN AFFAIRS

ALASKA HIGHWAY-STUDY RESPECTING RECONSTRUCTION AND PAVING COSTS

LIB

Arthur Laing (Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources)

Liberal

Hon. Arthur Laing (Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources):

Mr. Speaker, as the house is already aware, the Department of Public Works is carrying out an engineering study to determine the cost of reconstructing and paving the Canadian section of the Alaska highway, and the Department of Northern Affairs and National Resources is conducting an economic study to establish the benefits which would accrue to Canada as a result of this construction if it were undertaken.

Hon. members will be interested to know that the above studies are progressing, and for these it is now necessary to ascertain more precisely the design standards on which estimates of construction costs will be based and to obtain more detailed information about related engineering aspects. For this purpose there will shortly be technical talks between Canadian and United States officials. These talks will be without reference to possible means of financing.

Officials of the government of British Columbia and of the territorial government of the Yukon are being invited to participate in these talks and to have prior discussions with the federal officials. The question of paving the portion of the Alaska highway which lies in Canada, and of any negotiations with the United States government on the matter, remains open. Before any decision can be made it will be necessary to have more information regarding the cost of reconstruction, relocation and paving of the highway and regarding the economic benefits to Canada. A tentative date for talks with British Columbia and the Yukon is December 3, 1964, and with the United States, December 4.

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PC

Erik Nielsen

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Erik Nielsen (Yukon):

Mr. Speaker, if I may comment briefly on the minister's statement may I say I am sure that members of the house, particularly those from the provinces of Alberta and British Columbia

and, of course, the northern areas will especially welcome the minister's announcement. We have been waiting for some time for this development to occur, and while I for one am disappointed that the talks will not include the subject of cost sharing, nevertheless the talks will no doubt be fruitful.

As the minister is well aware, there are two bills pending before the United States Senate and House of Representatives which suggest that the United States undertake half the cost of reconstructing and paving the Alaska highway. I suggest that perhaps it would be useful to include a discussion of the financial and cost sharing implications of the paving and reconstruction of the highway, particularly since over half of the highway, 657 miles, is in the province of British Columbia. With the energy, ambitions and convictions of the premier of British Columbia I am sure he would be only too happy to enter into any cost sharing arrangement with the federal government and the government of the United States for the paving of the highway. My own suggestion has been for some time that the United States should bear half the cost, British Columbia should bear one third of the cost and the federal government should bear one third of the cost.

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An hon. Member:

What arithmetic.

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PC

Erik Nielsen

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Nielsen:

I am sorry; the United States should bear one half of the cost, the federal government one quarter and British Columbia one quarter. I was quoting Social Credit theory, as one member suggests.

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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh.

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PC

Erik Nielsen

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Nielsen:

I really do suggest to the minister that these cost sharing talks should be beneficial. I am sure we are all extremely happy to hear that progress is finally being made and that concrete talks are going to be held with regard to paving this very vital artery through the Yukon to Alaska.

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SC

Bert Raymond Leboe

Social Credit

Mr. Bert Leboe (Cariboo):

We do welcome the report that has been given to us by the minister today. We hope, however, that emphasis will continue to be put on getting those sections of the highway paved that fall within the alignment on the official survey. This, of course, would greatly assist in the time that

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is going to elapse between the total paving of the highway and the time some of this work can be accomplished. If the amount of paving that can be done is brought forward immediately, it will be of great help to the Yukon and to Alaska. I hope the minister will continue to study this angle so that as much paving as can be readily done in certain spots will be done. This, I am sure, will meet with the approval of the people of British Columbia and the Yukon.

In so far as Social Credit policies are concerned, Mr. Speaker, I want to say that the remarks and the laughter indicate just about how much the people of this country do understand Social Credit.

On the orders of the day:

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PC

Erik Nielsen

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Erik Nielsen (Yukon):

Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources based on his announcement today concerning the talks that will be proceeding with the three governments mentioned. Since there are two other very important matters that can be usefully discussed, I wonder whether the minister would consider suggesting to the governments concerned the inclusion in these talks of the recently discovered Tarr inlet as a tidewater port in the Yukon and the construction of the Skagway road, since they concern all three governments?

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LIB

Arthur Laing (Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources)

Liberal

Hon. Arthur Laing (Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources):

Mr. Speaker, our latest information on the so-called Tarr inlet harbour area is rather discouraging. These other matters may come up when the governments get together. However, the technical discussions to which I referred, will concern themselves essentially with the Alaska highway.

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QUESTIONS


(Questions answered orally are indicated by an asterisk.)


FREE MEDICAL AND HOSPITAL SERVICES TO OLD AGE PENSIONERS AT 65

NDP

Mr. Mather

New Democratic Party

Has the national pensioners and senior citizens federation requested that free medical and hospital services be extended to persons entitled to an old age pension at age 65 and, if so, what consideration is being given to this request?

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LIB

Julia Verlyn (Judy) LaMarsh (Minister of Amateur Sport; Minister of National Health and Welfare)

Liberal

Hon. Judy V. LaMarsh (Minister of National Health and Welfare):

Reference to this matter was contained in one of a number of resolutions set forth in a copy of a report

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of a recent meeting of the national pensioners and senior citizens federation addressed to the Prime Minister, the Minister of National Health and Welfare and members of the federal parliament.

Old age assistance is provided at age 65 to persons who fulfil the requirements of the Old Age Assistance Act and regulations. As the provinces administer and share the cost of old age assistance, any supplementary benefits for recipients involving the expenditure of provincial funds would require consideration by provincial authorities.

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FEDERAL ROYAL COMMISSIONS

RA

Mr. Laprise

Ralliement Créditiste

1. How many royal commissions have been set up at the request of the federal government since 1957 and what are they?

2. How many of them have submitted their final report since that time and how much has each of the commissions cost?

3. Which commissions have still to report and when are they expected to do so?

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LIB

John (Jack) Davis (Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister)

Liberal

Mr. Jack Davis (Parliamentary Secretary io Prime Minister):

1, 2 and 3. Seventeen

royal commissions have been set up since 1957, as follows:

Final report submitted Cost

Royal commission on Seabird

island Indians $ 2,506.00

Royal commission on railway problems (transportation) Royal commission on the Great Slave lake railway Royal commission on treaties 8 and 11 as they apply to Indians of the Mackenzie district Royal commission on coal Royal commission on the motor vehicles industries Royal commission on certain activities of station CHEK-TV, Victoria, B.C.

Royal commission on government organization Royal commission on Canadian magazines and other periodicals (publications)

Royal commission on banking and finance

574.090.00

46.920.00

8.245.00

99.166.00

57.841.00

4.720.00 2,791,915.00

136.121.00 *726,384.00

Royal commission on irregularities in processing claims under the Prairie Farm Assistance Act *16,074.03

* As at September 30, 1964-a few outstanding small accounts still to be paid.

Final report not Expected reporting

submitted date

Royal commission on Volume 1 has been

Health services published-volume

Royal commission on 2 expected prior to end of March 1965 Summer of 1965

taxation

Royal commission on Late in 1965

pilotage

Royal commission on No date as yet hasbilingualism and bi- been forecast forculturalism the preparation ofRoyal commission on a final report Unable to determinethe future of the at this early stageoverhaul and main- tenance base of T.C.A. at Winnipeg Royal commission on Unable to determine

crash of a T.C.A. at this early stage

aircraft at Ste Therese, Quebec

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Subtopic:   FEDERAL ROYAL COMMISSIONS
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ROYAL COMMISSIONS SET UP AT PROVINCIAL REQUEST

November 16, 1964