July 27, 1964

MINUTE OF INTERNAL ECONOMY COMMISSION RESPECTING MEMBERS' TRAVELLING EXPENSES

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Maurice Bourget (Speaker of the Senate)

Mr. Speaker:

May I be permitted to table an extract in English and in French from the minutes of a meeting of the commissioners of internal economy held on Tuesday, June 23, 1964, with reference to members' travelling expenses.

Topic:   MINUTE OF INTERNAL ECONOMY COMMISSION RESPECTING MEMBERS' TRAVELLING EXPENSES
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HEALTH AND WELFARE

ESTABLISHMENT OF ADVISORY COUNCIL OF CONSUMERS

LIB

Julia Verlyn (Judy) LaMarsh (Minister of Amateur Sport; Minister of National Health and Welfare)

Liberal

Hon. Judy V. LaMarsh (Minister of National Health and Welfare):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to take this opportunity to announce the establishment of an advisory council of consumers which will advise me and my department on all matters of interest to the Canadian consumer. In doing so it will provide valuable assistance to the department in the administration of the Food and Drugs Act and the Proprietary or Patent Medicine Act.

The council will consist of 15 members representing outstanding authorities and consultants in the consumer field across the country. The chairman will be Dr. C. A. Morrell, director of the food and drug directorate, and the secretary will be Miss Eleanor M. Ordway, chief of the directorate's consumer division.

The Food and Drugs Act is primarily a protective measure, in that its basic purpose is to protect the consuming public from injury or hazards to health, as well as from fraud in the manufacture, distribution and sale of food, drugs, cosmetics and therapeutic devices. The Proprietary or Patent Medicine Act is designed to protect the consumer from injury to health or from fraud with respect to registered proprietary medicines. In the administration of these two acts it has long been the practice, wherever possible, to seek the views of consumers on all matters of direct interest to them. With the development of more effective consumer organizations, 20220-379

whose views are becoming a strong influence as representative of consumer opinion, it was considered desirable to provide a more formal medium through which the department can be advised of consumer interests.

I should like now, Mr. Speaker, to announce the names of those appointed to the council: Dr. M. Pernarowski, of Vancouver; Mrs. B. P. Marliss, of Edmonton; Dr. Edith Rowles, of Saskatoon; Mrs. W. Gilbert Weir, of Winnipeg; Dr. Barbara A. McLaren, of Toronto; Mrs. A.

F. W. Plumptre, of Ottawa; Mrs. A. H. Zimmerman, of Ottawa; Madame J. F. Pilon, of Boucherville, Quebec; Mile. Huguette Pla-mondon, of Montreal; Madame Antonio Paradis, of Ancienne Lorette, Quebec; Madame Therese Casgrain, of Montreal; Mrs. H. R. Neilson, of Ste. Anne de Bellevue, Mrs. V. W.

G. Wilson, of Montreal; Miss Theresa McNeil, of Sydney, Nova Scotia; Mrs. John C. Crosbie, of St. John's, Newfoundland.

Topic:   HEALTH AND WELFARE
Subtopic:   ESTABLISHMENT OF ADVISORY COUNCIL OF CONSUMERS
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. J. G. Diefenbaker (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, the appointment of this committee I think will commend itself generally; and as this is to be a committee that will look into consumer problems I hope it will be able to give some advice to the government regarding the ever rising costs of living, a matter of deep concern to all consumers across Canada. Any advice that the committee can give to the Minister of Finance and the department will certainly be welcome.

Topic:   HEALTH AND WELFARE
Subtopic:   ESTABLISHMENT OF ADVISORY COUNCIL OF CONSUMERS
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NDP

Robert William Prittie

New Democratic Party

Mr. R. W. Prittie (Burnaby-Richmond):

Mr. Speaker, this move to establish a consumers' advisory council is a step, albeit a very small step, in the right direction. The minister must be aware that the consumers association of Canada and the co-operative union of Canada have both asked for a government department to handle the increased activity in this direction. It is interesting to note that we have a government department to look after practically every economic group in the country such as agriculture, forestry, fishing, mining and so on. However consumers, who spend about $25 billion a year on personal goods in this country, do not receive the same sort of attention from the government that the other economic groups do.

Advisory Council of Consumers

I think in time, as a result ol pressure from the consumers' associations, the government will come to the point where a full scale department will be required to assist consumers in assessing the great variety of goods on the market at the present time. This is a step in the right direction, but it is a very faltering one, a very small step.

Topic:   HEALTH AND WELFARE
Subtopic:   ESTABLISHMENT OF ADVISORY COUNCIL OF CONSUMERS
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SC

Horace Andrew (Bud) Olson

Social Credit

Mr. H. A. Olson (Medicine Hai):

We noted the remarks of the Minister of National Health and Welfare in announcing the establishment of this advisory council. She pointed out some of the functions of this council, and it seemed to me that most of the preliminary functions were the same as those of the food and drug administration which is now protecting the interests of the consumer. We feel that this council should have a somewhat wider scope, particularly in its set up so there would be representation of broader viewpoints on economic problems.

While we welcome the announcement that has been made concerning the functions that have been outlined by the minister, we do say it is only a very short step in the right direction, and that people who do take a broad interest in consumer problems should have a voice in this council.

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RA

Gilles Grégoire

Ralliement Créditiste

Mr. Gilles Gregoire (Lapointe):

Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, there was so much noise close to the minister when she made her statement that we could not hear everything she said. Indeed, we could hear sheets of paper being crumpled and conversations between other ministers far better than the minister's statement.

In any case, I think it is truly a first step in the right direction to want to set up a committee that will take the interest of the consumers seriously, because consumers surely make up one of the most important groups in our economy. There is no doubt that the committee will have a great deal of work to do for those consumers. To begin with, as already explained, definitions or better information will have to be provided concerning the goods purchased.

Then, and this is very important, we must not overlook the fact that most consumers today buy on credit, and I feel the committee will have a tremendous job to do in order to protect them against those who exploit people that buy on the instalment plan or through loans. As a matter of fact, that could be one of the most important means through which the committee could help Canadian consumers.

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Topic:   HEALTH AND WELFARE
Subtopic:   ESTABLISHMENT OF ADVISORY COUNCIL OF CONSUMERS
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AGRICULTURE

SOUR CHERRIES-ANNOUNCEMENT OF STABILIZED PRICE

LIB

Harry William Hays (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Hon. Harry W. Hays (Minister of Agriculture):

Mr. Speaker, I have an announcement to make that I am sure will be of interest to all hon. members. During the past week a close watch has been kept on the sour cherry marketing situation, since it has been apparent that the crop will be particularly heavy both in Canada and the United States.

The crop in the United States is harvested somewhat earlier than that in Canada; unfortunately, however, the market in that country has been severely disrupted and late last week it became evident that unless appropriate action were taken much of the Canadian crop, which is grown almost entirely in Ontario, would remain unharvested because of the uncertainty of the future price situation. In this connection, it should be noted that the crop is used almost entirely for processing.

Immediate action has been taken to meet this situation, and I am pleased to be able to announce that governor in council authority is being sought to provide assistance under the Agricultural Stabilization Act to stabilize the price to producers of the 1964 crop of sour cherries delivered to processors at 7.8 cents per pound, which is 81 per cent of the ten year average or base price. Under the program for which authorization is sought, price stabilization will be accomplished by the agricultural stabilization board being authorized to make a direct payment to producers of 1.3 cents per pound of cherries.

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Subtopic:   SOUR CHERRIES-ANNOUNCEMENT OF STABILIZED PRICE
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PC

Warner Herbert Jorgenson

Progressive Conservative

Mr. W. H. Jorgenson (Provencher):

Mr. Speaker, we are pleased to hear the announcement by the minister that price support will be provided for this particular commodity under the agricultural prices stabilization board, although we will have to assess, upon closer study, the value of the particular price that has been established. We are also pleased to see that members of the government, in spite of their opposition to this legislation and in spite of the comments they made during the election campaign, are now following the program we set out while we were in office. [Later:]

On the orders of the day:

Topic:   AGRICULTURE
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PC

Harold Warren Danforth

Progressive Conservative

Mr. H. W. Danforth (Kent, Oni.):

I would like to address a question to the Minister of Agriculture which arises out of the announcement he made to the house today. Can the minister state whether his department gave

any consideration to the establishment of a fair market value for duty on United States sour cherries imported into Canada as a move to protect the Canadian growers?

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LIB

Harry William Hays (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Hon. Harry W. Hays (Minister of Agriculture):

Yes, Mr. Speaker.

Topic:   AGRICULTURE
Subtopic:   SOUR CHERRIES-ANNOUNCEMENT OF STABILIZED PRICE
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PUBLIC ACCOUNTS

CONCURRENCE IN THIRD REPORT OF STANDING COMMITTEE

LIB

Paul Tardif

Liberal

Mr. Paul Tardif (for Mr. Baldwin) moved

that the third report of the standing committee on public accounts, presented to the house on Friday, July 24, be concurred in.

Topic:   PUBLIC ACCOUNTS
Subtopic:   CONCURRENCE IN THIRD REPORT OF STANDING COMMITTEE
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Motion agreed to.


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July 27, 1964