July 23, 1964

EXTERNAL AFFAIRS


Third report of standing committee on external affairs-Mr. Matheson.


HEALTH AND WELFARE

TABLING OF PROVINCIAL REPLIES RESPECTING

LIB

Lester Bowles Pearson (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Right Hon. L. B. Pearson (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to table replies to my letter of June 26 on federal-provincial consultations on health services from the governments of Ontario, Newfoundland, Prince Edward Island and Saskatchewan. The only government that has not yet replied is New Brunswick.

Topic:   HEALTH AND WELFARE
Subtopic:   TABLING OF PROVINCIAL REPLIES RESPECTING
Sub-subtopic:   CONFERENCE ON ROYAL COMMISSION REPORT
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ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE

FAILURE TO EXECUTE WARRANT FOR ARREST OF HAL BANKS


On the orders of the day:


PC

Eldon Mattison Woolliams

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Eldon M. Woolliams (Bow River):

Mr. Speaker, in view of the absence of the Minister of Justice I should like to direct this question to the Prime Minister. In view of the question which I directed yesterday to the Prime Minister and the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration, does the Prime Minister know the present whereabouts of Hal Banks, who is ignoring a court order and warrant for his arrest while on bail?

Topic:   ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE
Subtopic:   FAILURE TO EXECUTE WARRANT FOR ARREST OF HAL BANKS
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LIB

Lester Bowles Pearson (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Right Hon. L. B. Pearson (Prime Minister):

No, Mr. Speaker, I do not know his whereabouts, but inquiries are being made and it is hoped that a statement can be made tomorrow.

Topic:   ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE
Subtopic:   FAILURE TO EXECUTE WARRANT FOR ARREST OF HAL BANKS
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PC

Eldon Mattison Woolliams

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Woolliams:

I see the parliamentary secretary to the Minister of Justice is now present, so may I direct this supplementary question to him. Is the Prime Minister or the parliamentary secretary to the Minister of Justice not somewhat surprised that neither he nor his officials in the Department of Justice are aware of Banks' whereabouts? I have been advised by Montreal radio station CKGM, and in particular by Ed Murphy,

a radio commentator, that Hal Banks up to yesterday, and probably today, was apparently at Higgins beach, Scarborough, main post office, Higgins beach, U.S.A. If that information is correct, what is the Department of Justice intending to do about it? Do they intend to institute extradition proceedings?

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LIB

Donald Stovel Macdonald (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. D. S. Macdonald (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of Justice):

Mr. Speaker, my impression, because I have not had a complete report on this, is that there is no direct connection between the appeal proceedings in respect of which the bail bond was issued, and the court proceedings which the hon. member will realize were at the suit of Upper Lakes Shipping. As I said yesterday, I have asked for a full statement on this from the department, and I would expect that a more complete statement will be available when the minister returns tomorrow.

Topic:   ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE
Subtopic:   FAILURE TO EXECUTE WARRANT FOR ARREST OF HAL BANKS
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PC

Eldon Mattison Woolliams

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Woolliams:

A further supplementary question. Do I take it from the parliamentary secretary that he or the officials of the Department of Justice are aware of Hal Banks' whereabouts, but because of legal procedure or for other reasons they do not intend to do anything immediately with regard to making an early arrest?

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Subtopic:   FAILURE TO EXECUTE WARRANT FOR ARREST OF HAL BANKS
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LIB

Donald Stovel Macdonald (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. Macdonald:

Mr. Speaker, as I have just said I will have a more complete report for the hon. member tomorrow.

Topic:   ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE
Subtopic:   FAILURE TO EXECUTE WARRANT FOR ARREST OF HAL BANKS
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PC

Eldon Mattison Woolliams

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Woolliams:

A further supplementary question. Does the parliamentary secretary to the Minister of Justice-

Topic:   ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE
Subtopic:   FAILURE TO EXECUTE WARRANT FOR ARREST OF HAL BANKS
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Maurice Bourget (Speaker of the Senate)

Mr. Speaker:

Order, please. The question period is not the time to institute a debate. I will hear all reasonable questions, but it seems to me that the parliamentary secretary has made a fairly complete answer in the circumstances.

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Subtopic:   FAILURE TO EXECUTE WARRANT FOR ARREST OF HAL BANKS
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PC

Eldon Mattison Woolliams

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Woolliams:

Well, Mr. Speaker, if you would permit me to put the question you could then rule whether or not it is in order. Does the parliamentary secretary not appreciate that if the whereabouts of Banks is known to a radio station but not to the Minister of Justice or his departmental officials, he should investigate immediately so that Banks will not escape into another jurisdiction?

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Inquiries of the Ministry Mr. Macdonald: Mr. Speaker, the significance of all these facts is well appreciated; but I would repeat to the hon. member for the third time that a more complete statement on all aspects of this matter should be available by tomorrow.

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Subtopic:   FAILURE TO EXECUTE WARRANT FOR ARREST OF HAL BANKS
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PC

Howard Russell MacEwan

Progressive Conservative

Mr. H. Russell MacEwan (Pictou):

A supplementary question to the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration. Has the hon. gentleman any statement to make in this regard following the question asked by the hon. member for Bow River yesterday?

Hon, Rene Tremblay (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration): Mr. Speaker, Mr. Hal Banks is an American citizen and we are unable to check whether he has crossed the border and is now in the United States.

He is not required to have a permit from the Department of Citizenship and Immigration to cross over to the United States, since he is an American citizen.

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Subtopic:   FAILURE TO EXECUTE WARRANT FOR ARREST OF HAL BANKS
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NDP

Herbert Wilfred Herridge

New Democratic Party

Mr. H. W. Herridge (Kootenay West):

Is

not Harold Chamberlain Banks a landed immigrant?

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Subtopic:   FAILURE TO EXECUTE WARRANT FOR ARREST OF HAL BANKS
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LIB

Léonard-David Sweezey Tremblay

Liberal

Mr. Tremblay:

As a Canadian resident, Mr. Hal Banks had a domicile in Canada with the privilege to live anywhere in Canada. This privilege can be withdrawn from him only for very serious reasons provided in the Immigration Act.

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Subtopic:   FAILURE TO EXECUTE WARRANT FOR ARREST OF HAL BANKS
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July 23, 1964