May 14, 1964


On the orders of the day:


PC

John George Diefenbaker (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. J. G. Diefenbaker (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, with reference to the NATO ministerial council meeting the Prime Minister said yesterday that whatever statement was made by the Secretary of State for External Affairs was made at a confidential session. I would ask him whether he has reviewed his statement of yesterday in that connection, particularly when it is considered alongside the fact that secretary Rusk of the United States authorized the state department to make available to the press a complete transcript of his remarks. I would ask the Prime Minister whether he would table in the house the statement made by the Secretary of State for External Affairs so that the house will be in a position to judge whether the report by Mr. Duffy in the Globe and Mail, a considerable portion

Inquiries of the Ministry of which is in quotation marks, represents in fact what the minister said respecting recognition of communist China?

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   COMMUNIST CHINA
Sub-subtopic:   AFFAIRS MINISTER RESPECTING RECOGNITION
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LIB

Lester Bowles Pearson (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Right Hon. L. B. Pearson (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, the meeting was a confidential one but as very often happens at confidential meetings of this kind certain delegates do give out their own statements to the press afterwards. As this has been done by certain delegates in this instance, I can see no objection to the tabling of the statement made by the Secretary of State for External Affairs, and I will be glad to see that it is done.

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   COMMUNIST CHINA
Sub-subtopic:   AFFAIRS MINISTER RESPECTING RECOGNITION
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

Does the Prime Minister have it available now?

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   COMMUNIST CHINA
Sub-subtopic:   AFFAIRS MINISTER RESPECTING RECOGNITION
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LIB

Lester Bowles Pearson (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Mr. Pearson:

I do not have it available at the moment but I will table it tomorrow and I will be glad to send a copy to my right hon. friend this afternoon.

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   COMMUNIST CHINA
Sub-subtopic:   AFFAIRS MINISTER RESPECTING RECOGNITION
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

I want to thank the Prime Minister. I will then be in the same position as the press.

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   COMMUNIST CHINA
Sub-subtopic:   AFFAIRS MINISTER RESPECTING RECOGNITION
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SUGGESTED SETTLEMENT BY NATO


On the orders of the day:


PC

Douglas Scott Harkness

Progressive Conservative

Hon. D. S. Harkness (Calgary North):

Mr. Speaker, 1 would like to direct a question to the Prime Minister. The newspapers report the Secretary of State for External Affairs (Mr. Martin) as having stated that the Cyprus problem should be settled by NATO. Could the Prime Minister tell us whether this is indeed the view of the government and, if so, how the Canadian government believes NATO can settle the Cyprus question?

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   SUGGESTED SETTLEMENT BY NATO
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LIB

Lester Bowles Pearson (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Right Hon. L. B. Pearson (Prime Minister):

Well, Mr. Speaker, I am afraid I cannot answer the last part of my hon. friend's question. So far as the first part is concerned, I think it is undoubtedly a matter of concern for NATO and that NATO has a definite responsibility in view of the fact that two of the governments directly concerned-indeed three, if you include the United Kingdom-are members of NATO. I have no doubt that when the Secretary of State for External Affairs is in his place he will be making a report on the council meeting and will be able to deal with the points raised by the hon. gentleman.

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   SUGGESTED SETTLEMENT BY NATO
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PC

Douglas Scott Harkness

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Harkness:

A supplementary question to the Prime Minister: in view of the fact that the United Nations is already attempting to settle this dispute, does the government believe it should withdraw in favour of NATO taking over this duty?

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   SUGGESTED SETTLEMENT BY NATO
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LIB

Lester Bowles Pearson (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Mr. Pearson:

No, but surely it is possible for NATO, which is concerned with this

dispute, to see what can be done within the ambit of that organization to make a solution easier to find.

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   SUGGESTED SETTLEMENT BY NATO
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. J. G. Diefenbaker (Leader of the Opposition):

Has the Prime Minister worked out in his own mind how a mediator such as the secretary general of NATO could operate alongside a mediator appointed by the United Nations? That is a difficulty which I see in the statement made by the minister.

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   SUGGESTED SETTLEMENT BY NATO
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LIB

Lester Bowles Pearson (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Mr. Pearson:

I do not know whether that is the difficulty to which the hon. member for Calgary North was referring. But I do appreciate the difficulty of the position mentioned by the right hon. gentleman. While I am not familiar with all the details of the appointment which was just made, I believe that this appointment of Mr. Galo Plaza the former president of Ecuador as mediator was intended to take some of the burden off the commander-in-chief of the United Nations forces who had been asked to intervene in certain situations which could be turned over to a civilian representative of the United Nations. If that is the situation, I think Mr. Galo Plaza's appointment will be a helpful one. It is not meant, I understand, to replace the task entrusted to the mediator, the former prime minister of Finland.

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   SUGGESTED SETTLEMENT BY NATO
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

Has the mediator appointed by the United Nations, the former prime minister of Finland, been consulted in connection with the proposition advanced by the Secretary of State for External Affairs that there should be a NATO mediator as well?

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   SUGGESTED SETTLEMENT BY NATO
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LIB

Lester Bowles Pearson (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Mr. Pearson:

I do not think it is a question of appointing a NATO mediator. The suggestion made by the Secretary of State for External Affairs at the NATO council meeting was, as I understand it, that the NATO members particularly concerned should get together and see what they could do to ease the situation in Cyprus. Of course, it would not be desirable for them to intervene in such a way as would cut across the work of the mediator appointed by the United Nations.

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   SUGGESTED SETTLEMENT BY NATO
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CYPRUS-REPORTED INADEQUACY OP TRAINING


On the orders of the day:


PC

Marcel Joseph Aimé Lambert

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Marcel Lambert (Edmonton West):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to direct a question to the Minister of National Defence. Has the minister seen reports which appeared in yesterday's La Presse by one of their correspondents in Cyprus to the effect that some officers have some reservations as to the type of training which our forces sent to Cyprus

have received in regard to the role they are actually discharging; that their United Nations standby training is not adequate for the type of job they have been assigned?

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   CYPRUS-REPORTED INADEQUACY OP TRAINING
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LIB

Paul Theodore Hellyer (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Hon. Paul Hellyer (Minister of National Defence):

No, I have not, Mr. Speaker.

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   CYPRUS-REPORTED INADEQUACY OP TRAINING
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May 14, 1964