May 12, 1964

PRIVILEGE

MR. PIGEON LACK OP BILINGUAL REPORTERS IN HOUSE COMMITTEES

PC

Louis-Joseph Pigeon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. L. J. Pigeon (Joliefie-L'Assomplion-Monlcalm):

Mr. Speaker, I wish to raise a question of privilege affecting all hon. members.

It has to do with the lack of bilingual parliamentary reporters, especially for the committees of the house. The Laurendeau-Dunton commission should inquire about that deplorable situation existing right here in parliament before travelling all over Canada.

I then ask the Prime Minister (Mr. Pearson) to empower the Laurendeau-Dunton commission to act accordingly.

Mr. Speaker, instead of spending half a million dollars to make investigations, the government should assume its responsibilities and take positive action by providing the committees of the house with a bilingual reporter.

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An hon. Member:

What did you do for six

years?

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PC

Louis-Joseph Pigeon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Pigeon:

We had some.

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Maurice Bourget (Speaker of the Senate)

Mr. Speaker:

Order. There is no question of privilege. If it is anything it is a complaint.

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CITIZENSHIP DAY

OBSERVANCE ON FRIDAY, MAY 15

LIB

Lester Bowles Pearson (Prime Minister)

Liberal

Right Hon. L. B. Pearson (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to draw the attention of the house to an event which has particular significance to all of us in Canada at this time. I refer to the observance of Citizenship day, which will take place on Friday, May 15, and which, in some of the larger centres, serves as the climax of what has come to be known as citizenship week.

Since 1950 Citizenship day has provided a special opportunity for all Canadians to consider the advantages that we enjoy as citizens in a great and free democratic country. Perhaps even more important, it serves to remind us of the responsibilities that rest

upon us all as we strive to make Canada even stronger and more united in the years that lie ahead.

Citizenship day has not been regarded as a public holiday or an occasion for festivities. It is rather a day when special ceremonies and exercises may be conducted in our communities and schools; when we can reassess what it means to be Canadian.

As citizens of Canada we can all take pride in our evolution as an independent state; we can take pride in the role we are able to play in international affairs, and in the contributions that we have made and are making toward the maintenance of peace and security in the world.

In 1867 the British North America Act united four provinces into one federation. Confederation was an "act of faith" that grew out of compromise. The founders, English speaking and French speaking, foresaw a great new nation stretching "from sea to sea". This faith in Canada, held a hundred years ago by the fathers of confederation, has now been realized geographically. It remains for us now to realize it in every other way. As we approach Citizenship day all Canadians, whatever their traditions, languages and cultures, will wish to recall the purposes of our forebears, to create a nation broad in outlook, strong in unity and purpose, every one of whose inhabitants will be able to say with justifiable pride "I am a Canadian citizen".

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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. J. G. Diefenbaker (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, with the concluding words of the Prime Minister there will be general agreement. I should like to see citizenship week celebrated during the later part of the month of June, so that on July 1 we might actually celebrate our citizenship and all that it means. Certainly Canadians deserve to be made Canada conscious and Canada proud, and to have the pride of Canadians not only in our heritage but also in our destiny. Throughout the years I think it has been said of Canadians that we have been notoriously calm about our country, in lacking that spontaneous attitude of pride and expressed pride in its greatness.

When I was prime minister we endeavoured to bring about one day in the year on which Canadians might join in celebration and on July 1, 1957, and each year since then there has been the celebration on parliament hill. In addition we also provided for the changing

Citizenship Day

of the guard, a course that has brought to Canadians a pride in our country and to our visitors a knowledge of what Canada stands for, which is so necessary.

The Prime Minister said that at confederation the dream was the building of a nation from sea to sea. In my opinion that concept of one Canada is all the more necessary today than ever before.

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Some hon. Members:

Hear, hear.

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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

As we approach the one hundredth anniversary of our country we must not do anything which will divide Canadians into two classes. Canadians first class and Canadians second class. That is a message I believe Canadians as a whole hold dear, and rather than a message of fear they would like one of faith.

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NDP

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

New Democratic Party

Mr. T. C. Douglas (Burnaby-Coquitlam):

Mr. Speaker, the members of this party would like to associate themselves with both the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition in commending the recognition of Citizenship day and all that this implies in our rich heritage.

We hope that the celebration of citizenship week will help all of us to realize the great privilege we have in living in a country made up of people of different ethnic backgrounds and various cultures, and that we should realize what a great opportunity is ours, to live in a country which supports the ideals of freedom and justice, a land in which we have great opportunities for the flowering of the human spirit. We trust too that the celebration of citizenship week will help us realize we cannot have opportunities without responsibilities, and that this is an excellent time for all of us to think of the responsibility which is ours to build a united Canada.

We live in a shrinking world in which nations are coming closer together. On the old continent of Europe nations which have lived in a state of bitter enmity for centuries are now working out a modus vivendi. Surely if these ancient enemies can live together in a spirit of harmony we here in Canada of the two great founding races can work out our difficulties satisfactorily.

I trust that as a result of citizenship week, and of giving some thought to this problem throughout the year, we in Canada shall be able to learn to live together in a spirit of mutual understanding, mutual forbearance and mutual respect. I trust citizenship week will inspire all Canadians to work to that end.

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SC

Robert Norman Thompson

Social Credit

Mr. R. N. Thompson (Red Deer):

Mr. Speaker, it is with much pleasure that we in our group join with the Prime Minister and the spokesmen for the other groups in the house to give our support to what has been

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said and what is represented in citizenship week, and particularly in Citizenship day on Friday. One of our greatest needs in Canada today is to realize and appreciate just what Canadian citizenship means, not only the privilege it brings to each one of us but the responsibilities it carries as well.

This means being proud to be a Canadian.

I think it would be well to pay tribute at this time to the Rotary clubs of Canada for the tremendous work they are doing in developing citizenship, and in bringing representatives from right across the country to Ottawa for citizenship week, in their program "Adventures in Citizenship". As we meet these young people, many of them from our own constituencies, I think it can be a lesson for each of us as members of parliament. Certainly it is well to remind ourselves that the privilege of being a Canadian carries with it the responsibility of acting like ones as well. As we give this witness in the international aspects of our responsibilities abroad, may it reflect back to us in every aspect of our Canadian way of life.

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David Réal Caouette

Ralliement Créditiste

Mr. Real Caoueile (Villeneuve):

Mr. Speaker, we in this corner of the house gladly join with the right hon. Prime Minister (Mr. Pearson) in drawing attention to Canadian Citizenship day.

The Prime Minister stated that as Canadian citizens we could be proud indeed on many accounts. We are proud of our development as a state, but it is the independence of that state which we would like to celebrate on Citizenship day. However, when we know that we cannot make a single move without the permission of our neighbour to the south, I wonder what we can normally call an independent state.

We have often heard high sounding words on holidays or celebrations of one kind or another.

The Prime Minister also said: We can be proud of the role we can play in international affairs to maintain peace and security in the world. That is true. But, for a small nation I think we have done even more than our share in that respect. When the government tells us that to maintain peace in the Congo- that world peace which we will celebrate on Citizenship day-Canada had to disburse $12,460,000 for the upkeep of its troops in that part of the world, it forgets to add that out of that amount the United Nations owe us $6,369,000 and has no money to repay us.

Since the creation of the UNEF and up to March 31, 1964, in order to help maintain peace and security in the world, Canada has

contributed the staggering amount of $46,005,000. The UN are supposed to pay us back $15,950,000 but it does not have the money to do so.

In my opinion that is a rather substantial contribution to the cause of peace and security in the world on the part of Canada. We have nothing against that. If I mention this, it is only to give an example of the assistance we can give throughout the world for the maintenance of peace. In the light of that example, I feel it would also be necessary to ensure peace and order in Canada so that we can celebrate Canadian Citizenship day.

Whether or not confederation was an act of faith that grew out of compromise, as the Prime Minister stated, the founders, both French speaking and English speaking, envisaged the establishment of a great new nation. Now, I claim that if the other provinces besides Quebec had treated their French speaking minorities the same way we treated our English speaking minority and others, the celebration of Canadian Citizenship day would be better understood throughout the country.

However, that does not stop us from celebrating with the others that great day dedicated to confederation and Canadian citizenship.

I contend that as long as French speaking minorities in the other provinces do not enjoy the treatment given to English speaking Canadians in Quebec, there will be people, not only in Quebec but throughout the country, who will doubt the usefulness of having a Canadian Citizenship day.

In any event we hope that this Citizenship day will be understood better. To be a Canadian does not mean to be a man settled in an ivory tower, impervious to other elements of our Canadian society.

We wish for a more united and a stronger than ever Canada, as the right hon. Prime Minister said. But let us begin by taking action at home that will give us that unity which will enable all ethnical groups in our country to have a share and a place in our Canadian confederation.

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NDP

Harold Edward Winch

New Democratic Party

Mr. Winch:

I should like to ask a question, Mr. Speaker. Under the new orders, is it only the leaders of the parties who can comment on a matter like this, or can a private member make a comment? I ask for your decision.

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Maurice Bourget (Speaker of the Senate)

Mr. Speaker:

Well, it does seem to me that the business before the house is pressing and urgent. If we were to allow 265 members to make comments, even on Citizenship day, it would require a considerable amount of time.

Inquiries of the Ministry I hope in that rather disjointed answer the hon. member has received the proper interpretation.

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NDP

Harold Edward Winch

New Democratic Party

Mr. Winch:

I understand, then, that under these regulations once the party leaders have spoken nobody else can rise to say a word? I ask for your guidance.

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Maurice Bourget (Speaker of the Senate)

Mr. Speaker:

The answer is yes.

On the orders of the day:

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NDP

Harold Edward Winch

New Democratic Party

Mr. Harold E. Winch (Vancouver East):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to direct a question to the Prime Minister relating to his statement about "citizenship Friday." In view of the interest of the Prime Minister in this matter I should like to ask him whether he would be prepared to ask the Department of Citizenship and Immigration why people who had been accepted for citizenship by the court over three months ago have not yet received their citizenship papers. Also I have knowledge of three members of the armed forces who after six months have not received their citizenship papers. Finally, why have they not received any answer to the various letters which have been sent to the department of citizenship? Would the Prime Minister look into this matter for Citizenship day?

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May 12, 1964