November 15, 1963

BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE OF SUBJECT MATTER OF BILLS C-83 AND C-84

LIB

John Whitney Pickersgill (Secretary of State of Canada; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Hon. J. W. Pickersgill (Secretary of State):

In accordance with the notice I gave last evening I am now prepared, if there is unanimous consent in the house, to make the motion to which I then referred. Perhaps it would be of convenience to hon. members in these circumstances if I were to indicate the motion I am prepared to make. It is the motion drafted by the hon. member for Peace River, and is in the following terms:

That the subjects dealt with in Bills C-83 and C-84 be referred to the standing committee on mines, forests and waters for consideration; provided however, that despite this motion the said bills shall remain on the order paper as orders for second reading without prejudice to the right to make or proceed with motions for such second reading.

If, Mr. Speaker, you could ascertain whether there would be unanimous consent to having this motion made and dealt with in summary fashion, as I indicated last night, I would be happy to proceed.

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE OF SUBJECT MATTER OF BILLS C-83 AND C-84
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. J. G. Diefenbaker (Leader of the Opposition):

As far as the official opposition is concerned, having suggested this course we are naturally in agreement with it.

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE OF SUBJECT MATTER OF BILLS C-83 AND C-84
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NDP

Stanley Howard Knowles (N.D.P. House Leader; Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker, on the assumption that there will be no debate, for it would amount only to duplication, we are prepared to agree with the course proposed.

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE OF SUBJECT MATTER OF BILLS C-83 AND C-84
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SC

Robert Norman Thompson

Social Credit

Mr. R. N. Thompson (Red Deer):

We agree to follow the same course.

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE OF SUBJECT MATTER OF BILLS C-83 AND C-84
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RA

Gilles Grégoire

Ralliement Créditiste

Mr. Gilles Gregoire (Lapointe):

That is agreeable, Mr. Speaker.

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE OF SUBJECT MATTER OF BILLS C-83 AND C-84
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LIB

John Whitney Pickersgill (Secretary of State of Canada; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Pickersgill:

I thank hon. gentlemen opposite for their co-operation and in these circumstances I move the motion, seconded by my colleague the Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources.

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   REFERENCE TO COMMITTEE OF SUBJECT MATTER OF BILLS C-83 AND C-84
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Motion agreed to.


EXTERNAL AFFAIRS

ATOMIC ENERGY

LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Hon. Paul Martin (Secretary of Stale for External Affairs):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to inform the house that yesterday representatives of the governments of India and Canada concluded and initialed in Ottawa two agreements in the atomic energy field of far reaching significance to both countries. An announcement along this line is being made in New Delhi today. These agreements will be formally signed in New Delhi shortly, and I shall table them at that time.

One of these agreements provides for extensive technical co-operation between the atomic energy authorities of the two countries. Valuable information already developed as a result of Canada's special experience in heavy water power reactor systems will be transferred to the government of India for full commercial use in India. This information, which has been valued by the government of India at $5 million, is to be supplied without cost to India and without deduction from Colombo plan or other assistance.

Under the other agreement between the two governments Canada and India will co-operate in the construction of a nuclear power station of the Candu type with a net electrical output of 200 megawatts to be located in Rajasthan state in India. The government of Canada will provide credit facilities for the purchase of services, material and equipment supplied from Canada, which are estimated to cost approximately $35 million out of a total cost of about $70 million.

Half of the initial charge of uranium fuel for this reactor will be procured from Canada. At current prices this half supply would be worth approximately $2.1 million. Canada will also supply such additional fuel for the station as may be required by India from time to time, provided that Canadian fuel is not more expensive than any other foreign fuel.

Canada and India have agreed to exchange information regarding the operation of this station and its counterpart, the Douglas Point nuclear generating station now under construction in Canada. They have also agreed that the two stations shall be used only for peaceful purposes, and the agreement includes appropriate provisions to this end.

Inquiries of the Ministry

The two agreements reflect the longstanding co-operation between Canada and India in the peaceful uses of atomic energy and will further strengthen the close and friendly relations between the two countries.

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   ATOMIC ENERGY
Sub-subtopic:   ANNOUNCEMENT OF AGREE- MENTS WITH INDIA
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MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT AND LOAN BOARD

LIB

John Whitney Pickersgill (Secretary of State of Canada; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Hon. J. W. Pickersgill (Secretary of State):

Mr. Speaker, I wonder whether I might be permitted to table the return to an address of the House of Commons dated June 26, 1963. Normally these are just tabled, but I do this so the hon. member for Brome-Missisquoi will be aware that the governments of Manitoba and Saskatchewan have agreed to comply with the request for this information.

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT AND LOAN BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING OF RETURN RESPECTING CORRESPONDENCE WITH PROVINCES
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

It is also pretty late, as usual.

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT AND LOAN BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING OF RETURN RESPECTING CORRESPONDENCE WITH PROVINCES
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LIB

John Whitney Pickersgill (Secretary of State of Canada; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Pickersgill:

We just got permission from the premier of Manitoba yesterday.

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT AND LOAN BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING OF RETURN RESPECTING CORRESPONDENCE WITH PROVINCES
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

When did you ask for it?

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT AND LOAN BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING OF RETURN RESPECTING CORRESPONDENCE WITH PROVINCES
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PC

Michael Starr

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Starr:

The day before yesterday. [Later:]

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT AND LOAN BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING OF RETURN RESPECTING CORRESPONDENCE WITH PROVINCES
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PC

Louis-Joseph Pigeon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. L. J. Pigeon (Joliette-L'Assomption-Monlcalm):

Mr. Speaker, I am referring to the answer given a few moments ago by the Secretary of State. When did the minister ask the provinces concerned for permission to table the correspondence?

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT AND LOAN BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING OF RETURN RESPECTING CORRESPONDENCE WITH PROVINCES
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LIB

John Whitney Pickersgill (Secretary of State of Canada; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Pickersgill:

I am afraid the matter was not one which came under my jurisdiction but under that of another minister.

Topic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT AND LOAN BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   TABLING OF RETURN RESPECTING CORRESPONDENCE WITH PROVINCES
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November 15, 1963