November 13, 1963

PRIVILEGE

MR. ORLIKOW AVAILABILITY OF REPORT RESPECTING T.C.A. WINNIPEG MAINTENANCE BASE STATEMENT BY MINISTER

LIB

George James McIlraith (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Hon. G. J. Mcllrailh (Minister of Transport):

Mr. Speaker, yesterday at the opening of the session the hon. member for Winnipeg North (Mr. Orlikow) made a statement, as a question of privilege, concerning a press story in the Winnipeg Free Press of November 5, referring to the Dixon-Speas report. I did not hear the earlier part of the hon. gentleman's statement, as I came into the house when his remarks were nearing conclusion.

In the course of his statement he quoted from the Winnipeg Free Press of November 5, part of which quotation was as follows:

Mrs. Konantz had seen the Dixon-Speas report and could understand why it could not be made public. She said it contained information which could not be given to C.P.A., T.C.A.'s main competitor.

Later in the day at the question period questions were asked on the same general subject matter by the hon. member for Pro-vencher (Mr. Jorgenson) and the hon. member for Winnipeg North Centre (Mr. Knowles), and in the course of these questions and answers I said I did not show the report to the hon. member for Winnipeg South.

The facts are that the hon. member for Winnipeg South came to my office, and among other subjects pressed me to do all I could to make sure that the T.C.A. maintenance and overhaul base did not move from Winnipeg, and asked me why I did not table the Dixon-Speas report. The Dixon-Speas report was on a table behind my desk where I had been working on it.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. ORLIKOW AVAILABILITY OF REPORT RESPECTING T.C.A. WINNIPEG MAINTENANCE BASE STATEMENT BY MINISTER
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PC

Michael Starr

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Starr:

Kind of handy there.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. ORLIKOW AVAILABILITY OF REPORT RESPECTING T.C.A. WINNIPEG MAINTENANCE BASE STATEMENT BY MINISTER
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LIB

George James McIlraith (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Mcllraith:

I explained to her why it could not be released. I pointed to it and indicated that four of the volumes contained almost exclusively material which could not be tabled because of its confidential nature, in that it gave detailed technical information that must remain confidential to the air line and that would be most useful to competitors.

The report was not removed from its place, nor was it opened or examined by Mrs. Konantz.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. ORLIKOW AVAILABILITY OF REPORT RESPECTING T.C.A. WINNIPEG MAINTENANCE BASE STATEMENT BY MINISTER
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NDP

Stanley Howard Knowles (N.D.P. House Leader; Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker, on this question of privilege that was raised yesterday, and to which the Minister of Transport has now spoken, may I say there seems to be some question as to what the hon. member for Winnipeg South meant when she said, as reported, that she saw the report.

We note with interest the explanation given by the Minister of Transport. I understand that the hon. member for Winnipeg South will be returning from the United Nations to the House of Commons today or tomorrow, and we are prepared to wait until we hear from her before we consider whether any further steps should be taken.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. ORLIKOW AVAILABILITY OF REPORT RESPECTING T.C.A. WINNIPEG MAINTENANCE BASE STATEMENT BY MINISTER
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QUESTIONS


(Questions answered orally are indicated by an asterisk.)


* WORLD FAIR

NDP

Mr. Fisher

New Democratic Party

1. In the recent announcements by the Minister of Public Works that arrangements are completed for the construction plans for the access to the World fair site was the reference to (a) the complex consisting of the ice boom; the Point St. Charles-St. Helen's island bridge, the St. Helen's island-lie Notre Dame bridges and the lie Notre Dame to Jacques Cartier bridge ramps; or to (b) the provincially sponsored long span, high level bridge from Point St. Charles to St. Helen's island, the connecting bridges from St. Helen's island to lie Notre Dame, and the tunnel under the seaway from lie Notre Dame to St. Lambert?

2. If it was to (b) what contribution by the federal government is planned on the latter plans?

3. Has there been a finality in plans for access to the fair site and, if not, what possibilities are still under investigation or unapproved?

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   * WORLD FAIR
Sub-subtopic:   ACCESS TO SITE
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LIB

Hubert Badanai (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. Badanai:

1. The minister elaborated in a general manner various projects for the construction of the approaches which will be necessary to provide access to the site of the world exhibition.

2. The Canadian World Exhibition Corporation has suggested the construction of a bridge to connect St. Helen's island to Point Saint Charles and from St. Helen's island to Notre Dame island and the tunnel under the St. Lawrence seaway connecting Notre Dame island to the south shore: cost sharing will be established after the plans and specifications have been completed.

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3. The plans regarding the approaches to the site of the world exhibition have not yet been definitely laid down but they soon will be as they constitute the priority works of the exhibition.

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Subtopic:   * WORLD FAIR
Sub-subtopic:   ACCESS TO SITE
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* GRAIN BOATS AWAITING LOADING

PC

Mr. Rapp

Progressive Conservative

1. How many grain boats were waiting to be loaded with Canadian wheat and flour during the longshoremen's strike in Montreal harbour?

2. Of what registry were these boats, and for whom were they supposed to take on grain and flour?

3. What, is the estimated loss of shipping, by bushels, of wheat and flour during the recent strike by the I.L.A. in the ports of Montreal, Three Rivers and Quebec?

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   * GRAIN BOATS AWAITING LOADING
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LIB

Jean-Charles Cantin (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Cantin:

The national harbours board advise as follows:

1. Sixteen.

2. (a) Registry of vessels-6 Russian, 1 Norwegian, 1 Israeli, 2 Greek, 2 British, 1 Swedish, 1 Liberian, and 2 German; (b) This information is not of record with the board.

3. This information is not of record with the board.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   * GRAIN BOATS AWAITING LOADING
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COST OF TELEVISION SERVICE, FLIN FLON AND THE PAS, MAN.

PC

Mr. Simpson

Progressive Conservative

1. What is the total capital expenditure by the C.B.C. in relation to T.V. service for Flin Flon, Manitoba, and The Pas, Manitoba?

2. What is the annual operational cost of this service?

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Subtopic:   COST OF TELEVISION SERVICE, FLIN FLON AND THE PAS, MAN.
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LIB

John Whitney Pickersgill (Secretary of State of Canada; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Pickersgill:

I am informed by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation as follows:

1. Total capital expenditures to September 30, 1963 for: (i) Flin Flon, Manitoba, $251,431;

2. The C.B.C. television station at Flin Flon is coupled with that at The Pas. They were planned as a complex and are operated jointly using television recording. The cost of television recording for a non-connected station is a national program charge, and is not included in the operating cost of these stations. There are no local program originations at either station.

A staff of four people is based at Flin Flon to handle the television recording and to provide maintenance service for both stations. Aside from the salaries of these four employees, operating costs are confined to those for building and technical maintenance, line costs, tube replacements, light, power, etc.

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Subtopic:   COST OF TELEVISION SERVICE, FLIN FLON AND THE PAS, MAN.
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POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT CONTRACTS, CHARLEVOIX CONSTITUENCY

RA

Mr. Belanger

Ralliement Créditiste

1. How many contracts have been let, or for how many contracts have bids been called by the Post Office Department since April 8, 1963, for the constituency of Charlevoix?

2. Who were the bidders on these contracts?

3. What were the bids of each of them?

4. To whom were the contracts let?

5. Who was responsible for distribution of tender forms?

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Subtopic:   POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT CONTRACTS, CHARLEVOIX CONSTITUENCY
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LIB

Azellus Denis (Postmaster General)

Liberal

Mr. Denis:

1. Three-(a) St-Tite-des-Caps R.R. No. 2; (b) Cap-aux-Oies and Canadian National Railway Station; (c) St-Hilarion R.R. No. 1.

2. (a) St-Tite-des-Caps R.R. No. 2; Henri Jean, St-Tite-des-Caps, $1,480.95; Armand Morency, St-Tite-des-Caps, $1,800; Edmond Cunningham, St-Tite-des-Caps, $2,000.

(b) Cap-aux-Oies and Canadian National Railway Station; Rolland Fortin, Cap-aux-Oies, $350; Raoul Perron, Cap-aux-Oies, $550.

(c) St-Hilarion R.R. No. 1; Fernand Gagnon, St-Hilarion, $999; Paul Chouinard, St-Hilarion, $1,150; Frangois Audet, St-Hilarion, $1,175; Gaetan Audet, St-Hilarion, $1,190; Athanase Chouinard, St-Hilarion, $1,198; Normand Chouinard, St-Hilarion, $1,252; Arthur Tremblay, St-Hilarion, $1,350; Toussaint Tremblay, St-Hilarion, $1,495; Jacques Chouinard, St-Hilarion, $1,700; Lucien Tremblay, St-Hilarion, $1,800.

3. See No. 2 above.

4. (a) Henri Jean; (b) Rolland Fortin; (c) Fernand Gagnon.

5. The district director of postal service and the postmasters.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT CONTRACTS, CHARLEVOIX CONSTITUENCY
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November 13, 1963