May 31, 1963

INDIAN AFFAIRS

PROVISION FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF COURT OF CLAIMS

NDP

Frank Howard

New Democratic Party

Mr. Frank Howard (Skeena) moved

for leave to introduce Bill No. C-67, respecting the Canada court of Indian claims.

Topic:   INDIAN AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   PROVISION FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF COURT OF CLAIMS
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Some hon. Members:

Explain.

Topic:   INDIAN AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   PROVISION FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF COURT OF CLAIMS
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NDP

Frank Howard

New Democratic Party

Mr. Howard:

Mr. Speaker, this bill carries out one of the recommendations of the joint Senate and House of Commons committee on Indian affairs of both 1948, which recommendation was not acted upon, and 1961. It plugs a glaring and affronting omission in the speech from the throne, namely the need to establish some agency to deal with the long standing grievances of our native Indian people over their land and other matters, and seeks to establish a court of Indian claims to deal with those questions.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

Topic:   INDIAN AFFAIRS
Subtopic:   PROVISION FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF COURT OF CLAIMS
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NATIONAL DEFENCE

REFERENCE TO STATEMENT BY MINISTER IN DEBATE


On the orders of the day:


PC

Gordon Minto Churchill (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Gordon Churchill (Winnipeg South Centre):

Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask a question of the Minister of National Defence but I find he is not in the house. However, I will ask the question anyway and perhaps he can give an answer subsequently.

I base my question on a statement he made yesterday as reported at page 484 of Hansard, when he said, referring to me:

-the fact that he was well advised by his advisers of that day that it was not so-

I ask the minister this question-

Topic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Subtopic:   REFERENCE TO STATEMENT BY MINISTER IN DEBATE
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LIB

John Whitney Pickersgill (Secretary of State of Canada; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Hon. J. W. Pickersgill (Secretary of State):

Mr. Speaker, I wonder whether 1 could rise on a point of order. The hon. gentleman is quoting from a debate that is now in progress in this house. I believe it is absolutely against the rules of the house to raise questions on the orders of the day with respect to a debate that is in progress, or to seek to revive the debate at any time other than the time prescribed by the rules. I feel, therefore, that the hon. gentleman should wait until the matter comes up again in debate.

Topic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Subtopic:   REFERENCE TO STATEMENT BY MINISTER IN DEBATE
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PC

Gordon Minto Churchill (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Churchill:

I presume we are to be subjected to closure throughout this session, and this is another example.

Topic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Subtopic:   REFERENCE TO STATEMENT BY MINISTER IN DEBATE
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Maurice Bourget (Speaker of the Senate)

Mr. Speaker:

If the hon. gentleman has a question to put, would he please put his question?

Topic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Subtopic:   REFERENCE TO STATEMENT BY MINISTER IN DEBATE
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PC

Gordon Minto Churchill (Official Opposition House Leader; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Churchill:

I shall be glad to, and that

is what I was starting to do. My question to the Minister of National Defence is this. Does he intend to bring into debates here or elsewhere the advisers to the Minister of National Defence, namely the chiefs of staff, to whom I gave an assurance that I would not involve them in the election campaign or in debates in the House of Commons? I may now have to withdraw that assurance.

Topic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Subtopic:   REFERENCE TO STATEMENT BY MINISTER IN DEBATE
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LIB

John Whitney Pickersgill (Secretary of State of Canada; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Pickersgill:

It seems to me that in view of what the hon. gentleman has said there is all the more reason for a ruling on the point of order which was raised.

Topic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Subtopic:   REFERENCE TO STATEMENT BY MINISTER IN DEBATE
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NDP

Stanley Howard Knowles (N.D.P. House Leader; Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Knowles:

A little late, now.

Topic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Subtopic:   REFERENCE TO STATEMENT BY MINISTER IN DEBATE
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Maurice Bourget (Speaker of the Senate)

Mr. Speaker:

I regret I shall have to rule the question out of order on the ground that it is in the nature of a continuation of a debate and the hon. gentleman will have ample opportunity when the debate continues to raise the subject matter.

(Translation):

Topic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Subtopic:   REFERENCE TO STATEMENT BY MINISTER IN DEBATE
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AGRICULTURE

DISCUSSIONS RESPECTING DISTRIBUTION IN SCHOOLS


On the orders of the day:


PC

Louis-Joseph Pigeon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. L. J. Pigeon (Jolielle-L'Assompiion-Monicalm):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to direct a question to the Minister of Agriculture. Does the minister intend to initiate discussions with the provinces with respect to the free distribution of milk in schools? (Text):

Topic:   AGRICULTURE
Subtopic:   DISCUSSIONS RESPECTING DISTRIBUTION IN SCHOOLS
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May 31, 1963