November 9, 1962

RAILWAYS, AIR LINES AND SHIPPING PERSONNEL OF SESSIONAL COMMITTEE REFERENCE OF ANNUAL REPORTS AND BUDGETS

PC

Léon Balcer (Minister of Transport)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Leon Balcer (Minister of Transport) moved:

That the sessional committee on railways, air lines and shipping consist of Messrs. Addison, Badanai, Baldwin, Belzile, Bourbonnais, Caouette, Chevrier, Coates, Fairweather, Fisher, Foy, Granger, Gregoire, Lamoureux, Mitchell, Muir (Lisgar), Ouellet, Pas-coe, Prittie, Pugh, Rideout, Rinfret, Robinson, Rouleau, Rowe, and Smith (Simcoe North); and that the annual reports for 1961 of the Canadian National Railways, the Canadian National Railways securities trust and Trans-Canada Air Lines, the auditors' reports to parliament in respect of the Canadian National Railways and of Trans-Canada Air Lines, tabled on March 20, 1962; the budget for 1962 of Trans-Canada Air Lines tabled on February 9, 1962; and the budget for 1962 of the Canadian National Railways tabled on April 18, 1962, be referred to the said committee; and that items numbered 80 -Newfoundland ferry and terminals; 85-Prince Edward Island car ferry and terminals; 100-Maritime Freight Rates Act, as listed in the revised estimates of 1962-63, be withdrawn from the committee of supply and referred to the said committee, saving always the powers of the committee of supply in relation to the voting of public moneys.

Topic:   RAILWAYS, AIR LINES AND SHIPPING PERSONNEL OF SESSIONAL COMMITTEE REFERENCE OF ANNUAL REPORTS AND BUDGETS
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Motion agreed to.


EXTERNAL AFFAIRS


On the orders of the day:


LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Official Opposition House Leader; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Hon. Lionel Chevrier (Laurier):

I wish to direct a question to the Prime Minister. Would the Prime Minister indicate whether the suggestion that diplomatic and trading relations with Cuba should be broken off, as made by the national vice president of the Progressive Conservative Association of Canada, was a forecast of government policy?

Topic:   RAILWAYS, AIR LINES AND SHIPPING PERSONNEL OF SESSIONAL COMMITTEE REFERENCE OF ANNUAL REPORTS AND BUDGETS
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   SUGGESTED TERMINATION OF DIPLOMATIC AND TRADING RELATIONS
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. J. G. Diefenbaker (Prime Minister):

All I know regarding this matter is what I read in the newspapers, and apparently the hon. gentleman is in the same position. Whatever statements were made were the personal views of the individual in question.

Topic:   RAILWAYS, AIR LINES AND SHIPPING PERSONNEL OF SESSIONAL COMMITTEE REFERENCE OF ANNUAL REPORTS AND BUDGETS
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   SUGGESTED TERMINATION OF DIPLOMATIC AND TRADING RELATIONS
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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Hon. Paul Martin (Essex East):

Mr. Speaker, may I ask a supplementary question. Are we to conclude from what the Prime Minister has just said that in the formulation of foreign policy, this government does not take into account the views of the vice president of the Progressive Conservative association?

Topic:   RAILWAYS, AIR LINES AND SHIPPING PERSONNEL OF SESSIONAL COMMITTEE REFERENCE OF ANNUAL REPORTS AND BUDGETS
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   SUGGESTED TERMINATION OF DIPLOMATIC AND TRADING RELATIONS
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

Mr. Speaker, the hon. gentleman, with that experience that goes back over the years, will recall observations made from time to time by those of his party in official positions that bore no relationship to the policies of that party.

Topic:   RAILWAYS, AIR LINES AND SHIPPING PERSONNEL OF SESSIONAL COMMITTEE REFERENCE OF ANNUAL REPORTS AND BUDGETS
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   SUGGESTED TERMINATION OF DIPLOMATIC AND TRADING RELATIONS
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On the orders of the day:


NDP

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

New Democratic Party

Mr. T. C. Douglas (Burnaby-Coquitlam):

Mr. Speaker, may I direct a question to the right hon. Prime Minister. In view of radio reports indicating that India is so hard pressed for military aid to stem the Chinese aggression that Mr. Nehru has just stated India had asked for aid from the Soviet union and expects that the Soviet will stand by their previous commitments, will the Prime Minister assure the house that an offer of really substantial military aid will be made by Canada to our commonwealth partner?

Topic:   RAILWAYS, AIR LINES AND SHIPPING PERSONNEL OF SESSIONAL COMMITTEE REFERENCE OF ANNUAL REPORTS AND BUDGETS
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO MILITARY AID
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. J. G. Diefenbaker (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, this is a matter which is receiving the joint consideration of the British, United States and Canadian governments, naturally in full co-operation with the government of India. The situation requires continued consideration, and everything that is being done is in accordance with arrangements as among these four countries. In so far as Canada's initial assistance is concerned, the Dakota aircraft which were of particular necessity for the Indian government are on their way and will arrive in India, I think, on the 14 th.

Topic:   RAILWAYS, AIR LINES AND SHIPPING PERSONNEL OF SESSIONAL COMMITTEE REFERENCE OF ANNUAL REPORTS AND BUDGETS
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO MILITARY AID
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NDP

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

New Democratic Party

Mr. Douglas:

Mr. Speaker, may I ask the

Prime Minister a supplementary question. Did the Indian government ask for Caribou planes at the time we gave them the Dakota planes?

Topic:   RAILWAYS, AIR LINES AND SHIPPING PERSONNEL OF SESSIONAL COMMITTEE REFERENCE OF ANNUAL REPORTS AND BUDGETS
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO MILITARY AID
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

Mr. Speaker, this is a matter, of course, which I have not had the opportunity to check. However, I understand that a number of Caribou planes were ordered by the United States and that any assistance

Inquiries of the Ministry in this direction would come through the arrangements among the three countries, these Caribou planes having already been ordered some time ago by our neighbour to the south.

Topic:   RAILWAYS, AIR LINES AND SHIPPING PERSONNEL OF SESSIONAL COMMITTEE REFERENCE OF ANNUAL REPORTS AND BUDGETS
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO MILITARY AID
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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Hon. Paul Martin (Essex East):

May I ask

a supplementary question, which perhaps I should address to the Secretary of State for External Affairs. Can the hon. gentleman say whether Canada has yet decided on its commitment to India with regard to our participation in the consortium arrangement with the world bank arising, likewise, out of what we propose to do to assist India at the present time?

Topic:   RAILWAYS, AIR LINES AND SHIPPING PERSONNEL OF SESSIONAL COMMITTEE REFERENCE OF ANNUAL REPORTS AND BUDGETS
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO MILITARY AID
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PC

Howard Charles Green (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Howard C. Green (Secretary of State for External Affairs):

There has been no change in recent months with regard to the consortium.

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Topic:   RAILWAYS, AIR LINES AND SHIPPING PERSONNEL OF SESSIONAL COMMITTEE REFERENCE OF ANNUAL REPORTS AND BUDGETS
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO MILITARY AID
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On the orders of the day:


SC

Jean-Paul Cook

Social Credit

Mr. J. P. Cook (Monimagny-LTslet):

Mr. Speaker, may I ask the Prime Minister a question?

Last night, over the radio, we heard a report which pleased us, to the effect that the government had decided to have a translation made at its own expense of Beauchesne's work. Could the Prime Minister confirm that report?

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Topic:   RAILWAYS, AIR LINES AND SHIPPING PERSONNEL OF SESSIONAL COMMITTEE REFERENCE OF ANNUAL REPORTS AND BUDGETS
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   TRANSLATION INTO FRENCH OF WORK BY BEAUCHESNE
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Righi Hon. J. G. Diefenbaker (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, this question has been asked on a number of occasions. I think it was the hon. member for Montmagny-L'Islet (Mr. Cook) who first raised this matter. I have been in communication with the law book publishers, the Carswell Company Limited, in regard to producing Beauchesne in the French language. I am informed that the cost would be approximately $20 per volume for 500 volumes, and if a lesser number than that was ordered the amount would be very little different. In addition, I think provision would have to be made for the payment of the royalty to which Dr. Beauchesne was entitled and which passes on to his estate. The amount of that royalty is from 15 per cent to 20 per cent. Furthermore, the law book publishers would expect the translation to be done by someone connected with the government administration; otherwise the cost would be considerably greater.

The attitude of the government is that this is something that deserves to be done.

Topic:   RAILWAYS, AIR LINES AND SHIPPING PERSONNEL OF SESSIONAL COMMITTEE REFERENCE OF ANNUAL REPORTS AND BUDGETS
Subtopic:   EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Sub-subtopic:   TRANSLATION INTO FRENCH OF WORK BY BEAUCHESNE
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November 9, 1962