October 15, 1962

NDP

Mr. Herridge

New Democratic Party

Has the United Nations organization asked Canada to provide personnel for an administrative force in Dutch New Guinea and, if so, what were the details of the request, and what was the nature of the government's reply?

Answer by: Mr. Green:

The United Nations has not asked Canada for assistance of a purely administrative nature for the United Nations temporary executive authority in West New Guinea, but a request was made for both military and technical assistance in support of the United Nations administration. On August 16, 1962, the acting secretary general asked Canada to provide:

(a) an air adviser of wing commander rank to serve at United Nations security force headquarters;

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(b) two amphibious Otter aircraft with air and ground crews and spare parts.

Canada acceded to the request in full and all personnel and equipment required arrived in West New Guinea on September 2. All costs except regular monthly salaries will be borne by the United Nations, and both personnel and equipment are expected to return to Canada on or shortly after May 1, 1963.

On September 27, 1962, the United Nations Organization asked Canada to provide a diesel engineer for duty in West New Guinea. This request is being sympathetically considered.

'skilled workers from west indies

Question No. 12-Mr. Herridge:

1. Has the Department of Citizenship and Immigration sent a team or teams to the West Indies to encourage the immigration to Canada of skilled West Indians under the new regulations and, if so. have any protests or communications been received from West Indian governments criticizing the new immigration regulations and the activities of the immigration teams on the grounds that they tend to attract to Canada skilled workers which the West Indies can ill afford to lose, and what answers, if any, have been made by the government?

2. Is it planned to send further teams?

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   DUTCH NEW GUINEA
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN ADMINISTRA- TIVE FORCE
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PC

Frank Charles McGee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. McGee:

The answer to part 1 is that an immigration team toured the West Indies in June and July of this year, not to recruit skilled migrants but rather to interview persons who had already applied, on their own initiative, for admission to Canada. No protests or communications criticizing the new immigration regulations and the activities of the immigration team have been received from any West Indian government.

The answer to question 2 is that the question of sending another team to the West Indies for a similar purpose is under consideration.

'birth deformities by provinces

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Subtopic:   DUTCH NEW GUINEA
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN ADMINISTRA- TIVE FORCE
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NDP

Mr. Knowles (N.D.P. House Leader; Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

1. What are the numbers per thousand by provinces of birth deformities in 1959, 1960, 1961 and 1962 to date?

2. How many of these deformities are considered to have been caused (a) by nuclear tests (b) by thalidomide?

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Subtopic:   DUTCH NEW GUINEA
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN ADMINISTRA- TIVE FORCE
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PC

Jay Waldo Monteith (Minister of Amateur Sport; Minister of National Health and Welfare)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Monieilh:

This question calls for a verbal answer, Mr. Speaker, but actually it is quite lengthy and includes a statistical table. I wonder whether I might have permission to have the answer inserted in Hansard as read?

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Subtopic:   DUTCH NEW GUINEA
Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN ADMINISTRA- TIVE FORCE
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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

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Subtopic:   DUTCH NEW GUINEA
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PC

Marcel Joseph Aimé Lambert (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

How long is the answer, including the statistical table? How many foolscap sheets does it contain?

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Subtopic:   DUTCH NEW GUINEA
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PC

Jay Waldo Monteith (Minister of Amateur Sport; Minister of National Health and Welfare)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Monteith:

Two sheets including the table.

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An hon. Member:

Order for return.

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Subtopic:   DUTCH NEW GUINEA
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PC

Marcel Joseph Aimé Lambert (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

There is open to members of the house an alternative. If a minister or whoever is answering a question has a very-lengthy answer, the question may be made an order for return and the return then tabled immediately.

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Subtopic:   DUTCH NEW GUINEA
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PC

Jay Waldo Monteith (Minister of Amateur Sport; Minister of National Health and Welfare)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Monteith:

I would so suggest.

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Some hon. Members:

No.

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NDP

Stanley Howard Knowles (N.D.P. House Leader; Whip of the N.D.P.)

New Democratic Party

Mr. Knowles:

May I suggest that the minister stick with his first suggestion.

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Subtopic:   DUTCH NEW GUINEA
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LIB

John Whitney Pickersgill

Liberal

Mr. Pickersgill:

Which suggestion was

agreed to.

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Sub-subtopic:   CANADIAN ADMINISTRA- TIVE FORCE
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PC

Marcel Joseph Aimé Lambert (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

Then the answer will appear in Hansard as though it had been read.

[Editor's note: The answer referred to above is as follows:]

1. This information is not collected nationally at present with respect to all birth deformities. The numbers of infant deaths attributed to congenital malformations, by province, for the years 1959, 1960, 1961, as reported by the dominion bureau of statistics, are shown in a table with the corresponding rates per hundred thousand live births. These deaths are those for which the underlying cause was one of the diseases or conditions specified in the world health organization international classification, section XIV, congenital malformations (Nos. 750-759).

In six of the provinces there is provision for reporting congenital abnormalities in live births and stillbirths on a physician's notice of live birth or stillbirth, but there is no regular and uniform tabulation of the data for these provinces. However Ontario, for example, has published data from this source for the years 1959, 1960, as follows:

1959: Live born infants with congenital malformations 1,630

Rate per 1,000 live births ... 10.4 1960: Live born infants with congenital malformations 1,796

Rate per 1,000 live births ... 11.3

Stillbirths 270

Rate per 1,000 live births ... 2.3

The term "birth deformities" and such

similar expressions as congenital abnormalities, anomalies or malformations are not specific and may include relatively minor, superficial or temporary defects.

The occurrence of congenital anomalies, including problems of definition, classification and reporting, is under study in the Department of National Health and Welfare.

2. (a) The relationship, if any, between radiation exposure due to nuclear tests and occurrence of somatic or genetic effects is

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not yet clearly established. Any genetic effects would be manifest over many subsequent generations. Somatic effects have only been found with much higher radiation doses than those associated with nuclear testing.

(b) The number of deformities considered to have been caused by thalidomide is not known but data are being sought from the provinces and through the appropriate professional associations. As the inquiry is not complete an estimate cannot be made at this time. In any case, the proportion of all birth deformities which may be associated with thalidomide is expected to be small.

Infant deaths attributed to congenital malformations (International classification section XIV Nos. 750-759)

Infant Death Rates per 100,000

Infant Deaths Live Births

Province 1959 1960 1961 1959 1960 1961Newfoundland .. 73 64 79 492 422 507Prince Edward Island .. 13 12 15 478 439 529Nova Scotia .. .. 86 93 90 452 486 464New Brunswick 71 76 80 431 465 482Quebec .. 738 668 740 518 435 539Ontario .. 655 664 693 417 417 440Manitoba .. 88 100 98 386 430 421Saskatchewan . . 108 83 92 444 345 383Alberta .. 155 169 182 407 433 468British Columbia 157 142 116 393 354 301Yukon .. 2 1 1 372 186 179Northwest Territories .. .. 3 4 6 303 366 537CANADA 2,149 2,076 2,192 448 434 461Note: There were also 1,008, 970 and 835 stillbirths attributed to congenital malformations (Y38) in the years 1959, 1960, 1961, respectively.

Source: Dominion bureau of statistics annual reports of vital statistics for the years 1959, 1960, 1961 data from d.b.s. by telephone.

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*D.V.A. HOSPITALS RADIATION LEAVE

NDP

Mr. Berger

New Democratic Party

Was radiation leave cancelled or reduced for persons employed as X-Ray technicians in hospitals administered by the Department of Veterans Affairs on or about August of this year and, if so. how many employees were affected by such cancellation or reduction?

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Gordon Minto Churchill (Minister of Veterans Affairs; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Churchill:

The civil service regulations which became effective April 1, 1962, under the new Civil Service Act do not contain the provision which was included in previous regulations for one week's additional vacation leave for certain employees working in X-ray departments of federal hospitals. However, the regulations provide for leave with pay, with no limitations, to be granted to employees who are found, as a result of regular physical examination, to be in need of such leave because of exposure to radioactivity. It is understood that this is the practice in nonfederal hospitals. The establishment of the Department of Veterans Affairs provides for 87 X-ray operators who may be affected by this regulation.

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MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES

LIB

Mr. Macnaughton

Liberal

1. Has the minister, or the Department of National Health and Welfare, taken any steps to implement the proposals contained in the private member's resolution, concerning mental health, which was unanimously supported and adopted by this house on December 5, 1960?

2. Has the minister given consideration to the recent report by the Canadian Mental Health Association, entitled Mental Health Services in Canada, released in January, 1962, and the report of the study commission on psychiatric hospitals in the province of Quebec; and, has any action been taken in regard to the proposals set out in these reports?

3. Has the minister received any representations from medical persons, boards, or associations, concerning the utilization and size of the mental health grant; and, if so, what, in substance, were such representations?

4. Has the government considered increasing the grant sufficiently to meet the existing needs in this field?

5. Since 1958, how many provincial governments have requested the inclusion of mental hospitals in the federal hospital insurance program (Hospital Insurance and Diagnostic Services Act) ?

6. Has the royal commission on health services been given any special instruction to study mental health services in any particular?

7. Has the government given any consideration to the introduction of measures necessary to bring about an improvement in mental health and motivation so essential in the development of physical fitness, such as, guidance clinics, school mental health programs, family counselling, and pre-and post-natal health services?

Answer by: Mr. Monteith:

1. The advisory committee of the Department of National Health and Welfare on mental health considered the private member's resolution and resolved in March 1961 and again in March 1962:

That the advisory committee on mental health approves the resolution adopted in the House of Commons on December 5, 1960, which called on the government to "consider the advisability of co-operating with the provincial authorities and such professional and other groups as may be interested, in making a national survey of the extent of mental illness, its causes, problems and methods of treatment", and considers favourably the advisability of a national survey.

That the advisory committee on mental health supports the resolutions by the Canadian Psychiatric Association and the Canadian Mental Health Association; and recommends that these resolutions be brought to the attention of the royal commission on health needs in the most appropriate manner.

That in the event that the general purposes of the Macnaughton resolution are not implemented by the royal commission on health needs the subject be brought again before the advisory committee on mental health.

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It is understood that several briefs to the royal commission on health services brought this matter to the attention of the commission.

2. (a) A formal and final report by the Canadian Mental Health Association on the subject Mental Health Services in Canada has not, to the knowledge of the Department of National Health and Welfare, been issued. (The preliminary draft report bearing the above mentioned title was studied by representatives from various provinces and organizations at an institute supported by the department held in Ottawa in January 1962).

(b) Copies of the report of the study commission on psychiatric hospitals in the province of Quebec were received by the Department of National Health and Welfare in August 1962. Action is not contemplated on the proposals set out in the report since these come within provincial jurisdiction. However officers of the department have had a number of consultations with provincial officials with regard to these proposals.

3. Representations have been received that the mental health grant should be increased and provision be made for annual increases in accordance with the growth of population.

4. All national health grants, including the mental health grant, are under continuous study in order to provide suitable federal assistance on behalf of provincial health programs.

5. Subsequent to discussions concerning the inclusion of mental hospitals under the Hospital Insurance Program at the dominion-provincial conference held in November 1957, the inclusion of these hospitals was raised by Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and British Columbia at the dominion-provincial conference in July 1960.

6. No special instructions have been given to the royal commission on health services. Its terms of reference remain as initially laid down by the government.

7. No, the government has not considered the specific introduction of particular measures to bring about improvements in mental health. The existing health agreements between the federal and provincial governments afford adequate means of working out in a co-operative way extensions and improvements in such services as guidance clinics, school of mental health programs, family counselling, and prenatal and postnatal health services.

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ASSISTANCE TO PROVINCIAL MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS

October 15, 1962