April 17, 1962

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Some hon. Members:

No, no.

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William McLean Hamilton (Postmaster General)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hamilton (Notre Dame de Grace):

-

until the row has been counted.

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Charles Benjamin Howard

Liberal

Mr. Howard:

Mr. Chairman, may I make a comment on the point of order and in respect of what the Postmaster General has just said. On previous votes in committee, on two separate occasions I have raised a similar point of order without naming the hon. members who came in late. On each occasion the chairman of the committee at that time agreed that my point of order was well taken and that hon. members should not enter the chamber when a vote was being taken in committee.

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Paul Raymond Martineau (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

The Chairman:

Standing order 12, paragraph 2 reads:

When Mr. Speaker is putting a question, no member shall enter, walk out of or across the house, or make any noise or disturbance.

There is no doubt that by analogy the same rule will apply in committee. Therefore I believe that one vote should be deducted from the count made.

[The Chairman.]

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John Whitney Pickersgill

Liberal

Mr. Pickersgill:

Mr. Chairman, I move that the committee rise and report progress.

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Gordon Minto Churchill (Minister of Veterans Affairs; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Churchill:

Ten o'clock.

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Some hon. Members:

Closure.

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Paul Raymond Martineau (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

The Chairman:

Order. Before I put the motion may I ask if the hon. member would defer his motion, as it is now ten o'clock and we could call it ten o'clock.

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Alexis Pierre Caron

Liberal

Mr. Caron:

Mr. Chairman, it was stated that the Postmaster General came into the chamber while the vote was being taken. The hon. member for Cape Breton South also came in after the vote started.

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Paul Raymond Martineau (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

The Chairman:

The same alteration would apply.

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Donald MacInnis

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Maclnnis:

Mr. Chairman, on a question of privilege, the hon. member for Hull has called attention to the fact that I came in from behind the curtain after the vote was called.

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Donald MacInnis

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Maclnnis:

If my eyes served me right, the hon. member also came in after the vote was called.

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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh.

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Paul Raymond Martineau (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

The Chairman:

Order. It being ten o'clock-

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Alexis Pierre Caron

Liberal

Mr. Caron:

Mr. Chairman, the hon. member for Cape Breton South said that I came into the chamber after the vote was called. I was in here when the vote was called. I came in before the vote was called. The hon. member came in after the vote was called, and there is quite a difference.

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Paul Raymond Martineau (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

The Chairman:

Order. It being ten o'clock, shall I rise, report progress and ask leave to sit again at the next sitting of the house?

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April 17, 1962