April 12, 1962

PC

David James Walker (Minister of Public Works; Minister responsible for Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation; Minister responsible for National Capital Commission)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Walker:

While this matter is being inquired into, perhaps they could use the room of the hon. member.

Topic:   PARLIAMENT BUILDINGS
Subtopic:   EAST BLOCK
Sub-subtopic:   USE OF BILINGUAL SIGNS
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MARITIME PROVINCES

FURTHER UTILIZATION BY LOCAL INDUSTRIES


On the orders of the day:


PC

John George Diefenbaker (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. J. G. Diefenbaker (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, on Tuesday, April 10 the hon. member for Gloucester asked me if I had received a brief from Premier Stanfield of Nova Scotia and Premier Robichaud of New Brunswick with regard to further utilization of maritime coal. Such a brief has been received and the representations are under study.

Topic:   MARITIME PROVINCES
Subtopic:   FURTHER UTILIZATION BY LOCAL INDUSTRIES
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LIB

Hédard-J. Robichaud

Liberal

Mr. H. J. Robichaud (Gloucester):

A supplementary question. Would the Prime Minister advise the house on what date the brief was received, and whether it has been brought to the attention of the ministers or departments concerned?

Topic:   MARITIME PROVINCES
Subtopic:   FURTHER UTILIZATION BY LOCAL INDUSTRIES
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

Mr. Speaker, briefs are always brought to the attention of the ministers concerned.

Topic:   MARITIME PROVINCES
Subtopic:   FURTHER UTILIZATION BY LOCAL INDUSTRIES
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LIB

Hédard-J. Robichaud

Liberal

Mr. Robichaud:

I wish to direct a question to the Prime Minister. Will the Prime Minister advise the house whether he will agree to table the brief presented to him on March 7 by Premier Stanfield and Premier Robichaud on outlets for maritime coal? My reason for asking the question is that it appears now that the Minister of Mines and Technical Surveys and the officials of the dominion coal board have not been made aware of that brief.

Inquiries of the Ministry

Topic:   MARITIME PROVINCES
Subtopic:   FURTHER UTILIZATION BY LOCAL INDUSTRIES
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

Apparently the hon.

gentleman is not looking for information; he is giving information. As to the words in the earlier part of his alleged question, I shall give consideration to them.

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Topic:   MARITIME PROVINCES
Subtopic:   FURTHER UTILIZATION BY LOCAL INDUSTRIES
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SHIPPING

ST. LAWRENCE RIVER GOVERNMENT ACTION IN DISPUTE RESPECTING PILOTS


On the orders of the day:


LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Official Opposition House Leader; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Hon. Lionel Chevrier (Laurier):

I should like to direct a question to the Minister of Transport. What steps does the minister intend to take, following the statement made by the shipowners to the effect that they will operate their ships without the help of the pilots who are now holding meetings?

Topic:   SHIPPING
Subtopic:   ST. LAWRENCE RIVER GOVERNMENT ACTION IN DISPUTE RESPECTING PILOTS
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PC

Léon Balcer (Minister of Transport)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Leon Balcer (Minister of Transport):

Mr. Speaker, about that work stoppage of the St. Lawrence pilots, as I said yesterday, I met them and they have submitted new requests, much more moderate than their previous ones, which are now being discussed with the representatives of the Shipping Federation.

I intend to convene both groups again about those requests today, and I am confident that they will come to an agreement before very long, in the interest of both groups and of the public at large.

As for the question asked by my hon. friend, I have nothing to add to what I said the other day, that is that the minister and the Department of Transport are responsible for shipping operations on the St. Lawrence and, according to the requirements of the act, have to provide the necessary aids to navigation on the St. Lawrence. We intend to abide by the provisions of the act.

Topic:   SHIPPING
Subtopic:   ST. LAWRENCE RIVER GOVERNMENT ACTION IN DISPUTE RESPECTING PILOTS
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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Official Opposition House Leader; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

A supplementary question, Mr. Speaker.

Has the minister informed the shipowners that their action, in the case of the question that has been asked, would be illegal, as he indicated to the pilots that their strike was illegal?

Topic:   SHIPPING
Subtopic:   ST. LAWRENCE RIVER GOVERNMENT ACTION IN DISPUTE RESPECTING PILOTS
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PC

Léon Balcer (Minister of Transport)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Balcer:

Mr. Speaker, the Shipping Act provides that any ship going up the St. Lawrence has to pay a pilot's fee, whether there is a pilot or not operating her.

As far as our department is concerned, all it can require of a ship plying the St. Lawrence is that she pays the pilot's fee.

If the ship in question is plying up or down the St. Lawrence without a pilot, well, it is a decision for the ship to take; our department cannot take that decision.

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Inquiries of the Ministry

Topic:   SHIPPING
Subtopic:   ST. LAWRENCE RIVER GOVERNMENT ACTION IN DISPUTE RESPECTING PILOTS
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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Official Opposition House Leader; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

Is the minister aware of section 375B of the Merchant Marine Act, which says that shipowners must have a pilot from St. Regis up?

Topic:   SHIPPING
Subtopic:   ST. LAWRENCE RIVER GOVERNMENT ACTION IN DISPUTE RESPECTING PILOTS
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Topic:   SHIPPING
Subtopic:   ST. LAWRENCE RIVER GOVERNMENT ACTION IN DISPUTE RESPECTING PILOTS
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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Official Opposition House Leader; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

May I direct a question to the Minister of Labour and ask him whether, in his view of the fact that the parties to the dispute between the pilots and the shipping federation have not been successful in getting together, and in view of the further fact that there is a grave danger to navigation if ships are moved without pilots, he will lend his good offices and those of his departmental officers in order to bring these parties together.

Topic:   SHIPPING
Subtopic:   ST. LAWRENCE RIVER GOVERNMENT ACTION IN DISPUTE RESPECTING PILOTS
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PC

Michael Starr (Minister of Labour)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Michael Starr (Minister of Labour):

Mr. Speaker, I have listened to the great many questions that the hon. member for Laurier has directed to the Minister of Transport and myself with respect to this dispute. I am sure the hon. member is just as anxious as we are, or should be, that this dispute be settled. I am also sure he is aware of the fact that the Minister of Transport is devoting a great deal of time and energy to bringing about a settlement between these two parties. Consequently I think all this barrage of questions is not doing this dispute any good at all.

Topic:   SHIPPING
Subtopic:   ST. LAWRENCE RIVER GOVERNMENT ACTION IN DISPUTE RESPECTING PILOTS
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April 12, 1962