April 12, 1962

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An hon. Member:

They always misquote him.

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Donald Methuen Fleming (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming (Eglinlon):

The hon. member for Essex East is very mysterious himself most of the time.

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Donald Methuen Fleming (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming (Eglinlon):

No, the minister is not getting angry. The fact is that I just cannot bear cant and humbug.

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Gordon Campbell Chown (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Progressive Conservative

The Deputy Chairman:

I recognize the hon. member for Port Arthur.

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Douglas Mason Fisher

New Democratic Party

Mr. Fisher:

I wish to take up the point raised by the hon. member for Essex East and perhaps phrase it a little bit differently. Will the minister not agree that, if we do not have before this house dissolves the legislation indicated by the Prime Minister in his statement yesterday morning there will be a natural restriction or at least a very human restriction upon the editorial comment in the coming election campaign, in view of the fact that the whole matter will be up in the air and not only these United States publications which have their influence but also all Canadian publications that have a selfinterest in this measure will be walking a very careful line?

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Some hon. Members:

Hear, hear.

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Gordon Campbell Chown (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Progressive Conservative

The Deputy Chairman:

Shall vote 736 carry?

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Douglas Mason Fisher

New Democratic Party

Mr. Fisher:

Since the minister was so extensive in his answer to the hon. member for Essex East, I wonder whether he would answer my question.

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Donald Methuen Fleming (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming (Eglinton):

I have respect for the freedom of the press and of views expressed in it. However, I do not think that the hon. member in making his conjecture expects me to agree with him. I certainly do not agree with him.

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John Whitney Pickersgill

Liberal

Mr. Pickersgill:

We have just had another remarkable example of cabinet solidarity. We know that the Prime Minister refers to the press as the servile press. We now have the

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Supply-Secretary of State minister boasting about our having a free press. Which of the heads of government speaks for the government?

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Item agreed to.


PUBLIC PRINTING AND STATIONERY

SECRETARY OF STATE


739. Distribution of official documents-further amount required, $35,500.


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Neil Alexander Matheson

Mr. Maiheson:

I will try not to be long. I should like to comment briefly on this vote. Recently members received the publication "Canada and the United Nations, 1960". It is published by the Queen's printer under the auspices of the Department of External Affairs. This is the kind of document which has the story of the development of the United Nations and particularly Canada's part therein within recent years. At the beginning of this booklet there is a picture in which I think all Canadians will take pride. It is that of the Prime Minister of Canada addressing the 15th regular session of the United Nations general assembly. There is also an attractive portrait of Canada's Secretary of State for External Affairs presiding over a plenary meeting of the general assembly as one of the vice presidents of the general assembly. We all recognize the fact that a government in power will be publishing this kind of material. We welcome this kind of publication as being a part of their responsibility and adding to our knowledge of what its various departments are doing. Now, by way of contrast, I wish to mention something that has been disturbing a number of people.

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An hon. Member:

Name them.

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April 12, 1962