April 12, 1962

LIB

John Whitney Pickersgill

Liberal

Mr. Pickersgill:

On the point that has been raised by the minister may I say that this item does have to do with Eskimos. What my friend the hon. member for Grand Falls-White Bay-Labrador is seeking to present to the committee very briefly is the fact that Eskimos are treated differently in one part of the country from the way in which they are treated in another part of the country. When we are asked to spend this money for one part of the country it seems to me that would be a relevant point to make. I do not think the hon. gentleman has any intention of doing any more than make the point briefly.

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LIB

Charles Ronald McKay Granger

Liberal

Mr. Granger:

That is so, Mr. Chairman. I really thought they were related inasmuch as Eskimos are looked upon generally as a federal responsibility and that in the past Eskimos in Labrador were looked upon as being in part a responsibility of the federal government. As this item has to do with funds to be spent on Eskimos on the mainland of Canada, or that part of Canada, shall I say, other than the province of Newfoundland, and as Labrador is of course, a part of the mainland, I thought I should bring to the attention of the minister the fact that after that first grant was spent, no other grants have been made toward the assistance of Labrador Eskimos. Recently in a letter from the Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources I gathered that it was not

the intention or-and perhaps I should put it this way-that the government looked upon what had been done as fulfilling completely the obligations the federal government had toward the Eskimos in Labrador. I want to express my disagreement in that regard very briefly. The Eskimos are a federal responsibility. At one time the Eskimos in Labrador were looked upon as being partially a federal responsibility. I should like to express the hope that the minister will assess the situation and make assistance available to the Eskimos in Labrador through the provincial government as was done heretofore, because such assistance has not been forthcoming for well over a year now.

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Item agreed to. 732. Yukon Territory-operation and maintenance to extend the purposes of vote 302 of the main estimates for 1961-62 to include the contributions detailed in these estimates, $51,020.


LIB

William Hector McMillan

Liberal

Mr. McMillan:

I should like to ask the minister if this vote has anything to do with the celebration of the Yukon gold rush. The government has admitted spending $385,000 on Arizona Charlie's, two saloons, and a mortuary. I am wondering what the total amount is for this celebration.

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PC

Donald Methuen Fleming (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming (Eglinion):

Item 732 has nothing to do with any celebration of any anniversary in the Yukon.

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LIB

William Hector McMillan

Liberal

Mr. McMillan:

It is for picnic grounds, and I wondered if that had anything to do with it.

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Item agreed to. National museum of Canada- 734. Administration, operation and maintenance- further amount required, $50,000.


LIB

George James McIlraith

Liberal

Mr. Mcllraiih:

I have one or two questions I should like to ask about this item. I am sorry, I have risen on the wrong item.

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NDP

Douglas Mason Fisher

New Democratic Party

Mr. Fisher:

I should like to know the details of this expenditure.

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PC

Donald Methuen Fleming (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming (Eglinton):

This is a sum made up of sundries. The main estimates provided $855,972 and this additional sum was found to be required to enable purchases to be undertaken for the establishment by 1967 of suitable exhibits. It relates to the Canadian historical museum to be ready for opening by July 1, 1967, and to include the human history branch of the present museum, the Canadian war museum and suitable other items to be acquired in the course of the next five years to ensure that exhibits will be available to cover the essential features of Canada's development.

Supply-Privy Council

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NDP

Douglas Mason Fisher

New Democratic Party

Mr. Fisher:

Will this projected plan for 1967 require the taking on of any personnel to work in this particular area?

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PC

Donald Methuen Fleming (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming (Eglinion):

I am informed it will require some personnel to be added before 1967.

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Item agreed to.


PC

Paul Raymond Martineau (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

The Chairman:

This completes the supplementary estimates of the Department of Northern Affairs and National Resources. Next is privy council, vote No. 735.

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PRIVY COUNCIL


735. Expenses of the royal commission on railway problems-further amount required, $34,462.


LIB

John Whitney Pickersgill

Liberal

Mr. Pickersgill:

Mr. Chairman, you said that we had completed the estimates of the Department of Northern Affairs and National Resources. I do not think that is correct. Surely the supplementary estimates indicate that northern affairs is one item or one subject, and we ought now to proceed to item 729 and certainly not have the committee misled with the suggestion that this department has been completed.

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NDP
LIB
PC

Donald Methuen Fleming (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming (Eglinion):

Are you calling 735, Mr. Chairman?

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April 12, 1962