February 21, 1962

PRIVILEGE

MR. ARGUE ANNOUNCEMENT OF RESIGNATION FROM NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY

LIB

Hazen Robert Argue

Liberal

Mr. Hazen Argue (Assiniboia):

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a question of privilege affecting the house and my position in the house. I rise to inform the house that I have severed all my connections with the New Democratic party and, as a consequence, yesterday requested Your Honour to change the location of my seat.

My decision made at Regina to the Assiniboia N.D.P. executive was taken only after much careful and heart searching thought. The most difficult part of this decision was the realization that it meant leaving a group of men who had become very close to me, and who had worked and co-operated with one another for a period of almost four years. I leave eight hard working, sincere members of parliament who have served their country and their constituencies with distinction, and whose devotion to duty is an example to the whole house.

The second great difficulty in the decision I was making was that it was bound to hurt many good people of independent thought who had been my close friends within the C.C.F. These were the people who day after day, often at great sacrifice, went about trying to build a new party based on social justice and economic equality, and with the basis of control in the constituency organization. The consequence to them of my action I profoundly regret. In its justification I can only respond that the integrity of the Canadian nation, in my judgment, required me to make this decision.

I have already stated that in my opinion the N.D.P. was in the control of a small labour clique, and that their hold on the party was sure to continue and strengthen with the affiliation of more union locals. With delegates representing trade union locals and other labour bodies predominating over constituency delegates at conventions, discussion and persuasion on the convention floor becomes superfluous and votes become exercises merely to rubber stamp previously agreed to platform directives. It would be most dangerous to the democratic process to have a party gain power,

the effective control of which resided in a handful of labour leaders situated outside the House of Commons. This was the impelling reason why I have left the N.D.P.

As to the future, I shall merely say that I desire to seek re-election to parliament in my own riding of Assiniboia, and that I expect to make a further announcement bearing on my political future at an early date.

Mr. Speaker, I thank the house for its kind indulgence.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. ARGUE ANNOUNCEMENT OF RESIGNATION FROM NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY
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NDP

Douglas Mason Fisher

New Democratic Party

Mr. D. M. Fisher (Port Arthur):

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a question of privilege in relation to the hon. member's statement.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. ARGUE ANNOUNCEMENT OF RESIGNATION FROM NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY
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PC

Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

If it is a question of privilege affecting the hon. member individually, perhaps it would be in order for him to indicate what it is, but unless it is a matter of individual privilege or the privilege of the house I think the subject matter of the statement just made is probably one for debate. I point out to the hon. member that in the past similar statements of privilege have been made and precedent has been not to comment. However, if the hon. member has a point which he feels it raises-

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. ARGUE ANNOUNCEMENT OF RESIGNATION FROM NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY
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NDP

Douglas Mason Fisher

New Democratic Party

Mr. Fisher:

Mr. Speaker, I had no intention of rising and getting into the refrain of "Will ye no come back again" or anything like that, but I did feel that as a consequence of what the hon. member has said he has opened the way for a statement on this matter because there has been a reflection upon the other members of this party. As a consequence I just want to say that I do not intend to make the statement here, but it will be made tomorrow in the debate on the speech from the throne.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. ARGUE ANNOUNCEMENT OF RESIGNATION FROM NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY
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CRIMINAL CODE

AMENDMENT TO CHANGE METHOD OF EXECUTION

LIB

Julia Verlyn (Judy) LaMarsh

Liberal

Miss Judy V. LaMarsh (Niagara Falls) moved

for leave to introduce Bill No. C-69, to amend the Criminal Code (capital punishment, form of sentence).

Topic:   CRIMINAL CODE
Subtopic:   AMENDMENT TO CHANGE METHOD OF EXECUTION
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Some hon. Members:

Explain.

Topic:   CRIMINAL CODE
Subtopic:   AMENDMENT TO CHANGE METHOD OF EXECUTION
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LIB

Julia Verlyn (Judy) LaMarsh

Liberal

Miss LaMarsh:

Mr. Speaker, the bill is a very short one consisting of one section. It is simply to provide a change of sentence upon someone found guilty of a capital crime

Proposed Legislation

in order that the sentence shall be carried out by a gas chamber and not by hanging until death.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

Topic:   CRIMINAL CODE
Subtopic:   AMENDMENT TO CHANGE METHOD OF EXECUTION
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COPYRIGHTS

REPEAL AND REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING LEGISLATION

LIB

Julia Verlyn (Judy) LaMarsh

Liberal

Miss Judy V. LaMarsh (Niagara Falls) moved

for leave to introduce Bill No. C-70, to provide for copyright in Canada and to implement the universal copyright convention.

Topic:   COPYRIGHTS
Subtopic:   REPEAL AND REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING LEGISLATION
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LIB

John Whitney Pickersgill

Liberal

Mr. Pickersgill:

Explain.

Topic:   COPYRIGHTS
Subtopic:   REPEAL AND REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING LEGISLATION
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LIB

Julia Verlyn (Judy) LaMarsh

Liberal

Miss LaMarsh:

This is the reintroduction of a bill which is simply intended to modernize legislation which has not been modernized since 1921.

Topic:   COPYRIGHTS
Subtopic:   REPEAL AND REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING LEGISLATION
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PC

Edmund Davie Fulton (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. E. D. Fulton (Minister of Justice):

On

a point of order, Mr. Speaker; I have no firm views on the matter, but I thought I should bring this to your attention and to the attention of the house. It is my recollection that there is already on the order paper government order No. 6, a resolution that it is expedient that the houses of parliament approve the universal copyright convention signed by Canada at Geneva in 1952, etc.

I confess I have not given attention to the details of the question, but it did occur to me that it might be appropriate to bring the matter to Your Honour's attention, perhaps for consideration later, as to whether it is proper that the hon. lady should be given leave to introduce her bill at the present time.

Topic:   COPYRIGHTS
Subtopic:   REPEAL AND REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING LEGISLATION
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LIB

John Whitney Pickersgill

Liberal

Hon. J. W. Pickersgill (Bonavisia-Twillin-gaie):

Perhaps I may be allowed to say a word on the point which has been raised. It would appear to me that a resolution of the house would have no legislative effect. What the hon. lady is seeking to do is legislate to change the laws of Canada. There does not seem to me to be any incompatibility between the houses of parliament approving a convention which has been entered into and subsequent legislation to implement that convention.

Topic:   COPYRIGHTS
Subtopic:   REPEAL AND REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING LEGISLATION
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PC

Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

I thank the Minister of Justice for drawing attention to the possible point of order. I think no conflict arises at this stage, though it might as the bills progress if they turn out to be identical or very similar; because the house cannot, of course, carry on the same debate under two headings. But at this stage I think there is no obstacle to the hon. lady proceeding with her bill.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

Topic:   COPYRIGHTS
Subtopic:   REPEAL AND REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING LEGISLATION
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ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE

February 21, 1962