March 9, 1961

THE ROYAL ASSENT

PC

Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

I have the honour to inform the house that I have received the following communication:

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GOVERNMENT HOUSE


Ottawa, 9th March, 1961 Sir: I have the honour to inform you that the Honourable Patrick Kerwin, Chief Justice of Canada, acting as Deputy to His Excellency the Governor General, will proceed to the Senate chamber today, 9th March, at 5.45 p.m., for the purpose of giving royal assent to certain bills. I have the honour to be, sir, Your obedient servant, E. Joly de Lotbiniere Assistant Secretary to the Governor General


STANDING ORDERS


Sixth report of standing committee on standing orders-Miss Aitken.


ANNOUNCEMENT OF SIXTH MEETING OF JOINT CANADA-U.S. COMMITTEE

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Howard Charles Green (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Howard C. Green (Acting Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, I wish to make an announcement respecting the sixth annual meeting of the joint Canada-United States committee on trade and economic affairs. This meeting will be held in Washington on March 13 and 14, as was indicated in a joint statement by the Prime Minister and President Kennedy during the former's visit to Washington on February 20.

Canada will be represented by the Minister of Finance, the Minister of Trade and Commerce, the Minister of National Revenue and the Minister of Agriculture. The United States will be represented by Hon. Dean Rusk, Secretary of State; Hon. George W. Ball, undersecretary of state for economic affairs; Hon. C. Douglas Dillon, Secretary of the Treasury; Hon. Stewart Udall, Secretary of the Interior; Hon. Orville L. Freeman, Secretary of Agriculture; and Hon. Luther H. Hodges, Secretary of Commerce.

This will be a regular meeting of this committee for the purpose of discussing economic and trade matters of mutual interest to our two countries. These meetings have proved 90205-6-178i

valuable over the years in furthering understanding between the two governments on questions affecting their economic relations.

The last meeting was held in Washington on February 16 and 17 last year. The venue for these meetings has alternated between Ottawa and Washington. However, the committee is meeting again in Washington this year in order to expedite consultation and as a matter of convenience to the new United States administration.

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Lester Bowles Pearson (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Hon. L. B. Pearson (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, as the Acting Prime Minister has said, over the years this committee has proved its usefulness, and no doubt when it meets next week it will have an opportunity to add to that usefulness because there are a great many immediately urgent questions in the economic relations between the two countries to which consideration needs to be given. I would hope that the Acting Prime Minister and the other members of the Canadian delegation to the conference will see fit to bring up such questions as tourist purchase exemptions, which are now before the United States congress and, indeed, the impact on United States-Canadian trade and economic relations of some of the new economic policies of the new United States administration.

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Hazen Robert Argue

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Hazen Argue (Assiniboia):

Mr. Speaker, I think this meeting is very much needed at this time to discuss some of the important economic problems facing our two countries. Particularly in the field of agricultural surpluses it is necessary in my opinion to have an understanding with the United States so that Canada, as well as the United States, will have the opportunity to increase its exports of agricultural products. I am also certain that on the agenda should be the question of oil exports from Canada, with the hope that we can increase our exports of oil to the United States. There are many other outstanding economic problems on which I do not need to elaborate at this time. I am hopeful that this meeting may bear fruit.

On the orders of the day:

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William Moore Benidickson

Liberal Labour

Mr. W. M. Benidickson (Kenora-Rainy River):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to direct a question to the Secretary of State for External Affairs. I would direct the minister's

Canada-U.S. Committee on Trade attention to the statement he made respecting the forthcoming annual meeting at the ministerial level with respect to trade matters between Canada and the United States.

I refer the minister to the general report after a similar meeting in 1959, when it was indicated that with respect to the sale of wheat abroad these two governments had reached an understanding that what might be known as sales under concession would not be made by the United States to Japan or western Europe. Is the minister aware that there is strong evidence that in recent times sales to Italy by the United States have been on a concession and not a commercial basis? Is the minister considering including this item among the items to be discussed when our delegation goes to Washington?

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Howard Charles Green (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Howard C. Green (Acting Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, as the hon. member knows, it has not been customary to disclose the agenda for these meetings before they actually take place. There is wide scope to discuss all questions having to do with economic and trading matters during these conferences. A report will be made to the house as soon as the Canadian ministers return to Ottawa. I think the hon. member can rest assured that all such questions which are of interest to Canada will be discussed.

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Herbert Wilfred Herridge

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. H. W. Herridge (Kootenay West):

I have a supplementary question, Mr. Speaker. I wish to address my supplementary question to the Minister of Finance, who is also responsible for the administration of the Bankruptcy Act. In view of the fact-

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Donald Methuen Fleming (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Donald M. Fleming (Minister of Finance):

No, Mr. Speaker, the administration of the Bankruptcy Act falls under the responsibility of the Department of Justice.

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Herbert Wilfred Herridge

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Herridge:

Then I address my question to the Minister of Finance on account of the minister being a delegate to this coming trade conference. In view of the fact that a number of United States lumber companies in southeastern British Columbia have in recent years gone bankrupt under very suspicious circumstances, and in view of the fact that the Hilco Lumber Company at Fruitvale, recently went bankrupt leaving Canadian employees with wages in arrears for months-

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Some hon. Members:

Question.

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Herbert Wilfred Herridge

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Herridge:

I am laying the ground for it. In view of these facts, will the minister discuss this problem-it is a serious one to many Canadians-at the coming conference on trade and economic affairs?

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Donald Methuen Fleming (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming (Eglinton):

Mr. Speaker, I would think a question of that kind should

first be taken up with the appropriate Canadian authorities. If there is some question in regard to the law the matter should be brought to the attention of the appropriate department. It is not the sort of matter that would be appropriately introduced into a discussion until there has first been that kind of groundwork laid and investigation held.

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CCF

Herbert Wilfred Herridge

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Herridge:

Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask a supplementary question of the Minister of Finance. In view of the fact that the commercial attache to the United States embassy has expressed concern in regard to these bankruptcies and has offered his cooperation in an effort to correct this situation, would the minister place this on the agenda in the interests of Canadian citizens?

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Donald Methuen Fleming (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming (Eglinton):

Mr. Speaker, the question could be examined, but I might point out to the hon. member that even if the subject may not be ripe for inclusion as a specific subject on the agenda of the forthcoming conference that does not preclude representations being made through the ordinary channels if the facts warrant it.

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March 9, 1961